After World War I the American sporting public and personal defense gun owners took to the military weapons, the Springfield Bolt Action .30-06 and .303 rifles for hunting and target shooting and the .45 ACP (a semi automatic pistol) for defense. After World War II and Korean Police Action, the American sporting public and personal defense gun owners took to the semi-auto 15 and 30 round M1 Carbine .30 cal and some also the M1 Garand semi-auto battle rifle in the old .30-06 caliber, and also continued with the .45 cal semi-auto pistols. After the Vietnam War the initial assault weapon of our armed forces, the .308 cal Nato M-14 semi-auto rifle with 20 rd clips became quite popular with hunters and target shooters, and gun owners continued with the .45 cal semi auto pistol. After switch to the semi auto AR-15 in .223 cal by our armed forces in the Vietnam War, again the American sportsman adopted that caliber, largely for varmint hunting, but some for use on game the size of antelope and deer. As Police forces transitioned to the 9mm semi-auto pistols as their handgun of choice, so did the American gun owner..for personal defense and target shooting events. There has been a very long history in this country of the civilian sector adopting the military weapons, and the training with such often is a goal of the NRA so that formerly draftees and now volunteers for the military are well familiarized with them.

The defeat of the Soviet Block in the 1980s unleashed a huge interest in the very effective AK-47s and SKs of communist country manufacture that flooded the markets, for its very cheap and very effective deer sized game semi-auto capabilities in a .30 cal cartridge that has balistics closely resembling the tried and true deer gun of old, .30-30 Winchester from the end of the 19 Century. 5 round clips in the semi-auto battle rifles are common for hunting, but larger capability clips are available.

My own thinking on this issue is that there really is no need for any semi-auto pistol or rifle to have anything more than something that bolt action rifles have or revolvers for any civilian use. However, it must be noted that some revolvers like the common .22 Rimfire hold up to 9 rounds, and rifles, like the lever actions especially or pump rifles in revolver round calibers like the .357 Mag or .44 S&W, or .45 colt, or .44 Remington Magnum used for deer hunting, and personal defense will hold 10 rounds easily. .30-30 Lever Action Rifles of old with long barrels and long loading tubes used to hold up to 16 of that potent deer caliber.

Not much difference between a deer and a human in the amount of energy and velocity that puts them securely down. So those revolver caliber lever actions make for handy defense rifles also.

That's why the issue of clips and gun controls is a tricky business in a nutshell. And there is no evidence that during the time of the Clinton era into the Bush era clips and semi-auto rifles bans (assault rifles) there was any inpact made on shooting incidents or deaths.

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