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Occupy Wall Street protesters resting in New York City's Zuccotti Park on Monday.
The Occupy Wall Street protesters scored a major and somewhat unexpected boost from Michael Bloomberg today.
The New York City mayor didn't endorse the movement, but he said he wasn't going to kick these kids off the lawn in Zuccotti Park either, which has turned into the de facto hub of the demonstrations in the financial distract.
"The bottom line is, people want to express themselves, and as long as they obey the laws, we'll allow them to," the mayor told reporters. "If they break the laws, then we're going to do what we're supposed to do — enforce the laws."
It's unclear how long protesters will stay camped out, though he said "part of it has probably to do with the weather."
This marks a clear softening in tone from recent days. When asked about an expiration date on Friday, Bloomberg cryptically said, "we'll see what happens." He also criticized the OWS saying, "What they’re trying to do is take the jobs away from people working in this city."
The Occupy Wall Street protests have been underway for more than three weeks. With the exception of some isolated incidents, it's largely been a peaceful event.





Thank God someone is showing some sense! This is the purest form of Democracy, take note "extreme rightys"! I saw NO complaints about the Baggers when they expressed their "freedom to criticize"; what's right for one is also for the other!
Today my daughter's 12th grade GOVERNMENT TEACHER (or what passes for a teacher at Belmond Klemme High School in Iowa) told her students this about OCCUPY WALL STREET: "These people are nothing but lazy jobless people and I that is ALL YOU HAVE TO KNOW about it."
I AM FURIOUS. SHE IS POISONING THE MINDS OF THESE CHILDREN.
My daughter was furious too, and oddly the rest of the class said nothing but took notes.
Really?
CJ,
as a 12th grader, i don't know if i would have said anything either. it would have been nice if she would have encouraged discussion about it instead of giving the class her own ignorant view of the situation.
maybe you should have a talk with the teacher yourself, if you find it offensive. i am a news and a political junkie. i am sure 12th graders don't follow this stuff much. in 12th grade, i wouldn't have paid much attention to it, especially if my family wasn't affected by a job loss. today i am much more in tune with everything in the news. it is very sad that a government teacher can't be more informed. but look at what the republicans are saying about the protesters. on fox news they say exactly what that teacher said to her class.
by the way, i find her remarks ignorant, and i would be furious in your situation, too.
@CJ- Sounds like your daughter has a great teacher. They should move the protest to the White House where it really belongs.
You know ... you could actually swap these pictures with Vietnam War protest pictures.
Here is what many of the folks seem to be missing. Wafting by ones head at times one may have the adverse nerve to say "HEY"! These are a bunch of misfits. But they are not. It is however quite telling that republicans automatically assume these are protests to protest them. This is only because republicans and tea baggers instinctively feel the guilt. And they instinctively come to the defense of those lobbies they are beholden to. To the defense of those who are at the helm of the sinking ship.
As many are able to realize but not all we see that in fact these are peaceful protest. Yet time and time again the tea bagging [g] republicans and their mouth pieces have labeled them violent. As we all can plainly see these are Americans exercising their right to peacefully protest yet are marked as lowlifes who NEED to find a job. More so over we can clearly peer into the window of thought and recognize this is in effect the 99 percent giving light to the darkened country before them.
What we have here before our eyes is an opportunity. What I know many want is change. The change we all so hoped for when Obama was overwhelmingly voted in to office. You see what the housing debacle, the economic downfall and jobless rate has shown us is that America is in fact set up for the select few. Who ironically enough selected themselves. In this climate where the jobless need NOT apply in an open shunning of those in question what do we continue to grasp? That wall street tax breaks and cuts are in fact in place to benefit only those wealthy enough to take advantage of them. Too BIG to fail is the term coined. Well who then bailed them out when the FAILURES failed? The middle class the poor the JOBLESS...
So to antiquate the selection of choice and lack there of we see a SPECIAL section on the short bus of economics. Where when you are already rich you are taken care of. But if you struggle and open your mouth about the struggle you are shunned by the afore mentioned bus riders called names and attacked for expressing the American rights and liberties the afore mentioned ride along's wish to take. Make NO mistake in the least my friends. They wish to take from you your American right to speak out. Because it is not the protesters who have perpetrated violence. But the officers who are sworn to uphold the law and protect them. So you have a seen reminiscent of Ol' Nucky Thompson and the hay days of Boss Tweed. Cronyism on an un president level. Plumb to none and square at the ends but the means are left un attended.
Somewhat laughable indeed that we are at this moment. Where our children are being attacked and hated by those on the radical right FROTHING at the bit to put an end to any opposition expressing American liberties and rights. In fact we have all now seen who is full of hate and rampit blood lust for there fellow breatheren. To meet on the level is no longer in question. Thy square is null and the tree of fruit is void. What we have at hand before us is MY will against the power at hand that wishes to subjugate the class because race is not afforded them. A mere openness to work with all is non existent because while the democrats ALWAYS kept in tow the extreme aspect of there progressive movement the republicans have allowed there loony tune fringe the saddle. Bowing before them and taking it up the rear to be quite frank. Reason, science, math and astronomy are no longer pursuits of the few for the many but are left by the way side for talk toons and gotcha grabs. And in fact as petty as I am not I will remain remiss to say that the class in session is that of a mere trollop.
To know that those of upstanding position are now biting at the chomp of meager willingness in opposition of the betterment of man in this country is enough to give way to my darker side. And I will ride you all into the darkness spurs in grasp hearing the welp and those yelping as my stride quickens. To hasten what is in store for a new day is left on your shoulders.
All I have written as my readers know has come to pass. And in fact what is worse I ask? Peaceful protesters fed up and acting upon it? Or politicians in a party swearing oaths to a person or persons NOT the American people? To remain beholden to those persons or people above there sworn duties and oaths before the great architect of the world and on the book of holy's to the American people? What is worse? And how can you NOT stand in judgment?... Hmmm. ;]
And it is rather BRIGHT in here. ; ]
Cheers
"This is only because republicans and tea baggers instinctively feel the guilt."
When the majority of Republicans who often parade their alleged Christian beliefs (like Joe Scarborough endlessly does on his program in the mornings) around while stepping over the poor and less fortunates ability to get health care, fair wages, equity in education on their way into their churches, synagogues etc the huge contradiction is fairly easy to see for some.
But the American dream language that they dangle in front of the middle class, the poor "you can be a millionaire some day too" is so seductive so manipulated that they are able to convince enough Americans to vote against their own self interest
David Brooke”s has an undermining piece up about the 99% Occupy Wall Street protest. Clearly has not gone down to talk to any of the protesters as MSNBC’s Ed continues to do. Oh how I wish the hundreds of thousands of us (millions nationwide, 30 million world wide) who were protesting, petitioning, lobbying, being arrested before the invasion would have received this kind of MSM coverage. We did not. Maybe just maybe some lives could have been saved if those at home could have seen who was really out on the streets before the invasion. Oh I know that is so yesterday. I know Obama and all our Reps keep saying “move on, next chapter, do not be about retribution, witch hunts, vengeance” Still keep wondering why holding the Bush administration warmongers and liars accountable for the unncecessary deaths in Iraq and the deaths and injuries of American soldiers is “vengeance” and not JUSTICE.
The MSM failed to cover the tens of thousands of mostly working class Americans who were in DC in Oct of 2002 protesting the potential invasion of Iraq. We marched, we lobbied and petitioned our Reps. Some of us were arrested. The crowds then and in early Feb in New York(over a hundred thousand in New York) and across the nation accumulatively (30 million world wide) were made up of teachers, plumbers, students, WWII Vets (I had the honor of pushing a 93 year old vet in New York in his wheelchair in that protest led by 9/11 families against the invasion) Korean Vets, Vietnam Vets, Desert Storm Vets, as well as families pushing children in strollers and seniors in wheel chairs. Yes those very large crowds were made up of the mostly middle class. If those at home who were questioning the validity of the Bush administrations WMD intelligence would have seen who was really out on those streets across the nation and around the world they might have joined us or contacted their reps. But no the MSM would show the same clip of the 20 people with hoods over their heads at the protest over and over again in the evenings if they showed anything at all about the protest before the invasion. Chris you never got out on those streets and neither did anyone else at MSNBC. And while you did seem to ask more challenging questions of Bill Kristol, David Frum and others promoting that deadly invasion you basically went along (even though I could tell you were pissed). Every night those at home not realizing that hundreds of thousands (millions nationwide) had gone out on the streets, in DC lobbying their reps etc heard Wolfowitz, Condi "mushroom cloud" Rice, Cheney, Gaffney, Pollack, Kristol, Bush etc etc repeating the WMD "pack of lies"
When will the MSM start pushing for accountability again? Or at the very least start spending some time at the VA's where Iraqi Vets stand in long lines trying to get care. Or start interviewing the 33% of the Vets who think they put their own lives on the line for a "pack of lies"
Back to Brooke's article
Brooke’s fails to acknowledge that the common threads running through all of the issues (economic disparity, access to jobs, living wages, health care, unnecessary and costly wars both in blood and treasure) that the Occupy Wall Street protestors across the country are focused on are JUSTICE and ACCOUNTABILITY.
Brooke’s inability or unwillingness to go down on those streets and hear what they are saying for himself demonstrates he has his head up where the sun does not shine about the protest. He appears to be one of the 1%…afraid to really listen to or examine the real reasons for these protest.
JUSTICE and ACCOUNTABILITY on all fronts!
Here is David Brooke’s arrogant piece. (unable to link)
.Op-Ed Columnist
The Milquetoast RadicalsBy DAVID BROOKS
October 10, 2011
The U.S. economy is probably going to stink for a few more years. It is beset by short-term problems (low consumer demand, uncertain housing prices, too much debt) and long-term problems (wage stagnation, rising health care costs, eroding human capital).
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problems, but we can at least use this winter of recuperation to address the country’s underlying structural ones. Do tax reform, fiscal reform, education reform and political reform so that when the economy finally does recover the prosperity is deep, broad and strong.
Unfortunately, the country has been wasting this winter of recuperation. Nothing of consequence has been achieved over the past two years. Instead, there have been a series of trivial sideshows. It’s as if people can’t keep their minds focused on the big things. They get diverted by scuffles that are small, contentious and symbolic.
Take the Occupy Wall Street movement. This uprising was sparked by the magazine Adbusters, previously best known for the 2004 essay, “Why Won’t Anyone Say They Are Jewish?” — an investigative report that identified some of the most influential Jews in America and their nefarious grip on policy.
If there is a core theme to the Occupy Wall Street movement, it is that the virtuous 99 percent of society is being cheated by the richest and greediest 1 percent.
This is a theme that allows the people in the 99 percent to think very highly of themselves. All their problems are caused by the nefarious elite.
Unfortunately, almost no problem can be productively conceived in this way. A group that divides the world between the pure 99 percent and the evil 1 percent will have nothing to say about education reform, Medicare reform, tax reform, wage stagnation or polarization. They will have nothing to say about the way Americans have overconsumed and overborrowed. These are problems that implicate a much broader swath of society than the top 1 percent.
They will have no realistic proposal to reduce the debt or sustain the welfare state. Even if you tax away 50 percent of the income of those making between $1 million and $10 million, you only reduce the national debt by 1 percent, according to the Tax Foundation. If you confiscate all the income of those making more than $10 million, you reduce the debt by 2 percent. You would still be nibbling only meekly around the edges.
The 99-versus-1 frame is also extremely self-limiting. If you think all problems flow from a small sliver of American society, then all your solutions are going to be small, too. The policy proposals that have been floating around the Occupy Wall Street movement — a financial transfer tax, forgiveness for student loans — are marginal.
The Occupy Wall Street movement may look radical, but its members’ ideas are less radical than those you might hear at your average Rotary Club. Its members may hate capitalism. A third believe the U.S. is no better than Al Qaeda, according to a New York magazine survey, but since the left no longer believes in the nationalization of industry, these “radicals” really have no systemic reforms to fall back on.
They are not the only small thinkers. President Obama promises not to raise taxes on the bottom 98 percent. The Occupy-types celebrate the bottom 99 percent. Republicans promise not to raise taxes on the bottom 100 percent. Through these and other pledges, leaders of all three movements are hedging themselves in. They are severely limiting the scope of their proposed solutions.
The thing about the current moment is that the moderates in suits are much more radical than the pierced anarchists camping out on Wall Street or the Tea Party-types.
Look, for example, at a piece Matt Miller wrote for The Washington Post called “The Third Party Stump Speech We Need.” Miller is a former McKinsey consultant and Clinton staffer. But his ideas are much bigger than anything you hear from the protesters: slash corporate taxes and raise energy taxes, aggressively use market forces and public provisions to bring down health care costs; raise capital requirements for banks; require national service; balance the budget by 2018.
Other economists, for example, have revived the USA Tax, first introduced in 1995 by Senators Sam Nunn and Pete Domenici. This would replace the personal income and business tax regime with a code that allows unlimited deduction for personal savings and business investment. It’s a consumption tax through the back door, which would clean out loopholes and weaken lobbyists.
Don’t be fooled by the clichés of protest movements past. The most radical people today are the ones that look the most boring. It’s not about declaring war on some nefarious elite. It’s about changing behavior from top to bottom. Let’s occupy ourselves.
Why has the so called liberal MSNBC ignored Huntsman. Do not want the media to determine who wins by manipulating who gets the spotlight. And they do.
Huntsman and Romney are the two brightest light bulbs on the Republican stage (and know they have the prejudices against Mormons in their way). But, clearly they are both reasonable, intelligent, capable, really compassionate conservatives individuals. Even though Chris Matthews keeps repeating that Romney is "boring", "dull". Who wants a crazy ass Palin, Bachman, Perry for heavens sake on the Republican ticket? Who who who? Other crazy asses.
Now I have been a die hard Dem all of my life, even though I know both parties sold the American worker down the pike starting in the late 60's and continues to this day. But Obama is going to have to convince me an individual who was not totally on his bus ..and I could not support Hillary because of her Iraq resolution vote yet had serious questions about Obama after watching his mostly fence sitting in the Senate. I worked hundreds (literally) of hours for him in Colorado and Ohio based on trying to be hopeful (his pr campaign was masterful). Even though I was very aware of how his team was manipulating voters based on a dream of "hope and change" What else was there...went with it. Clearly there has not been much "change" The lack of accountability for the unnecessary Iraq war, shredding of the constitution and Geneva Convention (wiretapping, torture) etc. Obama's drone program, not holding anyone on Wall Street accountable etc.
Obama is going to have to convince me why he is any different than Romney (who I believe would have pushed for a more compassionate health care program) in regard to foreign policy and Wall Street thieves who have gotten away with socializing their losses and protecting their profits.
Based on the last three years I have not seen OBama hold any of the Iraq war criminals or the Wall Street criminals accountable. How different would it be if Romney wins?
One difference is Romney apparently has minimal donations coming in from small donors, and is apparently sponsored almost entirely through various forms of PAC money (April-June info is now available and 6% of Romney's $18 million is small donations). I fear the entities Romney might be beholden to, but still feel Obama is interested in supporting every American equally, regardless of affiliation. Buddy Roehmer stated on the Last Word's "Occupy Wall Street on 2012 Campaign Trail" (10Oct2011) that Obama's small donations are drying up and he is accepting PAC money, but both claims are apparently wrong. The Obama campain loudly and often proclaims they do not accept any money from special interest groups or any money from Washington lobbyists, and Obama's campaign is actively collecting the small donations needed to compete with Republican PAC money. I like Buddy's views a lot, and think he'd make a good President, and I might vote for him if Obama wasn't running, but Buddy needs to use his fact checker just a bit more if I am to continue to think of him as a leader.
Update to my post above: I'm kinda slow, politically. I may like the words that Buddy Roemer speaks a fair bit, but have pondered all of today I can no longer be a part of the free political system. I've become a forced Democrat because Republicans, or what's left of them, are intent on corporatifying the USA. Being a part-time voter is not easy these days. It's taken full-time study for me for a whole year to learn these lessons, and the bulk of America will probably again prefer voting Republican because it is so easy to side with anger when a full-time study is not performed, even if it is pointless discontent. I specifically voted against Sen. Franken because he had an angry campaign, critical of "the other party" (I was no longer tolerant of any type of political fighting, but was clueless of Republican corruption back then). I now realize Franken's anger was genuine, and he's actually a great Senator, not with purchased anger like Republican politicians who act in concert with ulterior motives. Buddy, you're good, but no matter what, you're now in a party I will not ever vote for again. If America has some sorta two-party-system thing going, we need to find a new party to bounce ideas off and develop some sort of polarity. Republicans are bought-and-paid and have rendered themselves obsolete.
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