If Congress decides to vote on only parts of President Obama's jobs plan then the president is going to have to rewrite his "Pass This Bill" slogan. MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell explains.
House GOP rewrites jobs bill
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Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:29 PM EDT





Mutha @!$%#as in the Senate want to fillibuster? Let's see it for real, I'll brew the coffee! Boehner and Co. are spinless dicks.
Listen u Dumocrats: Look the resolts of the SPECIAL ELECTIONS IN NY AND NNEVADA than go in the mirror and see who is what.
Pass The American Jobs Bill NOW ( as is ) . . .
Call your Congress People !!!
http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
http://www.callcongressnow.com/
The president is hoping that popular demand will sway the Republicans, at least to some extent. There are some signs it already has. Republicans are at least (and at last) talking about the need to compromise and make some kind of deal. Lawrence is underestimating -- indeed, totally overlooking -- the electorate, the public, the citizen, the voter, which is a huge part of this deal. You should clue him in on the American people. Hopefully, Lawrence will eventually catch up with what is happening. Whether the Republicans actually make a deal is still uncertain, but the fact that they have changed their tone (and tune) and are at least willing to say they are willing to compromise with this president should have been noted at some point in Lawrence's analysis.
Dear Henri no matter what Lawrence say or will say IT'S OVER FOR THE OBUZO that you peopes thought wad the Messiah. IS OVERRRRRRR
I don't get what you are saying, Lawrence. What is your point? Obama is screwed no matter what he does? He shouldn't have even tried because he will be inevitably defeated? That he was an idiot to propose something that the won't happen because of the cockamamie , obstructive and self-serving Republicans want to take us back to the wild west of the 1850s, no law, no doc, just settle by shooting each other? If he proposed something the Republicans would work with/like, Obama would then be a Republican, right? Are you trying to show that Obama can't do anything no matter what? What do you think he should have done differently or better? Your tone is like, he should have done something different and I'm going to tell you how he is screwed now? That he screwed it up again. It's pretty obvious that he has an intransigent opposition, cruel-hearted, mean-sprited. So should he give up? Is that what you are saying so smugly, that you have revealed how the Repubs are going to pick him apart once again...You seem too much in the bubble of DC. Tsk. Tsk Tsk, Obama is trying something that is going to get rejected. What an idiot! NO. Whether or not these anarchist Republicans, heartless, let-people die and suffer; that's just wahts life is about for the unfortunate. We have tried cutting taxes for ten years and it hasn't worked, obviously, as you have noted. Rich folks are in the business of keeping labor costs low. The Republican's arguments are spurious, post hoc, un-american, inhumane, and racist, truly willing to take the country down and make it in the the united states of selfishness. Why don't you help Obama make his case instead of saying, AHA! he's just going to suffer another defeat. I told it hear first. What else is Obama can do except fight them head on, with reasonableness and keeping his integrity. The Republicans are going to implode with their stupid, heartless reasoning by next year. People are going to wake up. Yes, I'd like him to play dirty too, just like them, but he's doing something courageous! Are you suggesting that he is ineffective no matter what? What? I mean no taxes on the rich? Let the states, who are broke, provide health care, and other public services. Let people sell pencils on the street corner if they can't figure out how to get a job. Come on, Lawrence; it's really not helpful to "expose" the obvious, shaking your head as if there should be a better way but not offering an alternative strategy.And not recognizing the courageous risk he is taking.
Sughart sugar with atag of a sneak OBUZO is ineffective no matter what.
Obuzo screwed no matter what he does? He shouldn't have even tried because he will be inevitably defeated? That he was an idiot to propose something that the won't happen because of the cockamamie , obstructive and self-serving Dumocrats like your self.
We can have a president that is capable to govern, point so go home and sleep and in your dreams this country will be Socialist-Marxist, but not when you weak up
Greg5 You are just one reason even though I am discouraged by Barack Obamas time as President I read remarks made by idiot insulting morons like you and as an Independent voter no matter how discouraged with him turn back towards voting for him People like you do not help in my thinking of even voting for a Republican
Yesterday Friedman said something like we are now children living inside a horrible divorce which does cut close to the bone with me and many others....so we do know it does, or could have mattered if one parent at least tries to be helpful. Obama's bill is full of help. "Pass this bill!" will and does echo back as "lets fix this bridge!".
Yesterday Friedman said something like we are now children living inside a horrible divorce which does cut close to the bone with me and many others....so we do know it does, or could have mattered if one parent at least tries to be helpful. Obama's bill is full of help. "Pass this bill!" will and does echo back as "lets fix this bridge!".
Carina Tootle your master and Messiah had TWO YEARS OF POWERS OF A KING and only now he remember to FIX THIS BRIDGE are you idiotic Dumocratically stupid ? Where is G. Soros the spooky dude now that got you where you are now together with media matters so you won't listen to Glen Beck. Obuzo don't give a dime about your likes.
Greg5..... Why don't you go back to your job killing, blood thirsty, hatefull , mean-sprited teabaggers.. You do not qualify to be on a blog with intelligent people....
Way to say it like it is Jay Talmage !
Here are a few more descriptions to add to Greg5's Republicon/TeaPotty clan :
Right-wing-nut, Radical, Social-engineering, Religious-fanatic, Racist, Homophobic, Misogynistic, Union-busting, Beckerheads . . .
Who use God as a weapon and Jesus as a mascot . . . and don't mean ANYTHING they say !!
Yesterday Friedman said something like we are now children living inside a horrible divorce which does cut close to the bone with me and many others....so we do know it does, or could have mattered if one parent at least tries to be helpful. Obama's bill is full of help. "Pass this bill!" will and does echo back as "lets fix this bridge!".
President Obama was very affective at the beginning of his presidency. He passed health care reform, he got a huge stimulus package. With a super majority he was able to say " they can come along for the ride but they will have to sit in the back seat", referring to the repubs. Then we had the little change in the house. Then his tune became "we need to compromise." Funny because his stand on this jobs bill is " this is a package. take it as it is. " ( no compromise). It's not just the Repubs that don't believe the President knows what he is doing neither do most of the people. I just read here on MSNBC this morning that REP. Weiner's seat went to a Republican, not only are the people speaking they are yelling. Never has Queens nor the Bronks elected a repub until today. This whole thing with Solyndra pretty much sums up President Obama's abilities.
and what about ny 26? got an answer for that ? you stupid rube!
Thank you for explaining who OBUZO really is. Let's see if now he even have back seat. What you expect when the jews liberals take a nobody leftst socialist out of the streets and make him a president just because he was/is giving good speeches. Others in the past could give good speeches and in the end they destry their country to the ground. So this is what Barak Hussein Obuzo is. Nothing more nothing less. So is his wife Michelle thye Queen in her own mind.
If a family member comes to you and asks for money to pay a bill and mishandles the money, is that your fault? The answer is no. What Solyndra did with the money is on them. Their failure is their own and not the President's, just as it would be with the relative you lent money to.
I believe in his logic skills and reasoning skills.
I just had a conversation with a liberal and the crux is that he was explaining to me that the $500M given away to Solyndra was stimulus. that money went to people, and they spent it. He explained the multiplier effect and how much that $500M has really meant to the economy. He then blamed it on Bush and the Chinese. One of my favorite quotes is from Jeff Foxworthy- "You can't fix stupid".
The problem is you have a group that is not interested in helping the country move forward, they are only interested in defeating the President. They know is policies will work, but block them at every turn because his success means their failure towards regaining power. To a Republican, there is nothing to be gained by helping middle to low income Americans because they have nothing to offer them in return. No seats on boards, no jobs after their political careers, and no large sums of money to donate to their campaigns.
Armondo Marion go get a life and stop being an idiot. Obuzo can't take a country like th USA and tutned in to a Socialst marxist society. Is very simple. If you and others including Obuzo you all free to go to Cuba please feel free.
Typical response to the people brainwashed by the Republican machine. I was born in this country, my ancestors built this country, so I will not be going anywhere. I notice people get negative when confronted by the truth.
I dont know why ignorant people like Greg5 cant make their ignorant views without creating names for people who view things realistically And are not under the spell of evil clowns Kind of wish idiots like him would leave this country
Rick- you should read some of the other comments on some of these blogs. I couldn't agree with you more. People's names are peoples names, party names, etc. You will find Obama spelled many ways, and I know you won't have to look far to see many plays on the party name Republican. That has to drive sensible people like you and me to look for reasonable people to discuss issues with.
If the Republicans rewrite the President's job bill they are only going to pass the parts they want. They will only give the tax cuts they want. They will spend nothing on creating jobs, and there will be no tax increases for the rich.
This shouldn't be all or nothing on either side. But, if the Republicans are left to have their way this will not be a job creation bill. But a destroy the economy bill that will insure that Obama will not get re-elected. It will also make Obama look weak, which he is not. Obama has a spine of titanium, but he hides it well. The Republicans do not respect logic and reason. The Republicans only respect a President that sounds like a bull moose in heat. Obama's nerve is stronger and more steely than most Presidents we have had. But, most Democrats and no Republicans see that.
Obama runs his Presidency like a community organizer, not a loonie governor, and goes out and talks with people and discovers what the best thing to do is, and he goes out and does it. Most other politicians don't understand this. Most of our recent Presidents have been governors. Probably the only reason Obama won is because he ran against another Senator and not a governor. Governors and Senators deal with people and problems differently. Obama is like no other President we have ever had. His experience is with organizing the community and that is how he solves problems.
He realizes that if you ask people on Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare what needs to be changed to make the programs run better and cheaper, they will no and he will be able to make the right changes not based upon political dogma.
Everyone knows that the Republicans only want to change Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid to destroy the programs and they will say anything to get this done. This makes most Democrats afraid of any changes at all especially if a Republican suggests the changes. Obama probably already knows the best changes to make in these programs, but he is trying to find a way to get this done without showing his hand.
Democrats have faith in your President, he knows how to do the job, he just needs your faith and support doing it. See how he got Osama, he sent the terrorists a message of don't mess with me, or you will sleep with fishes. President Obama will get done what is necessary and try to be Mr. Nice Guy, but in the end he will not let the Republicans destroy and social programs that the Democratic Party supports and are necessary for the good of the citizens of the United States. Democrats, President Obama knows what he is doing, and he knows what he is up against. He will deal with it.
Michelle- probably the biggest difference between the Clinton Administration and the Obama administration, from a process aspect, is Obama has been performing in many ways as you request. All or nothing, exactly like he wants it. Maybe allowing a few tweaks here or there, but either vote it up or down en toto. Whereas Clinton was adept at the political process, working both sides of the aisle. He got his head handed to him on a platter regarding health care (take it or leave it) early in his tenure, but learned from that. Republicans hated his Presidency, less for his moral lapses, but more from his success. they only used his moral lapses because that is what he gave them to use. Obama, to his credit, has given them no such thing as a moral lapse, so they are forced to use his results against him. And- as you know- that is exceedingly easy to do. This is the point in his tenure where Obama has to make a decision on whether he wants to be a one-term dogmatist, or a sucessfull two-term pragmatist in the Clinton fashion.
I know this view is a slap in the face to liberals, but our worst Presidents (including BushII) have been dogmatic. Our best Presidents (recent history wise, JFK, RR, WJC) have been very pragmatic, working issues across the spectrum. You're requesting an ideologue failure verses an ecumenical success.
I think we need an all or nothing president. I am tired of catering to Tea Party Anarchists. Harry Truman, FDR, Clinton was effective presidents because they had the backbone to stand up to the Republicans. I think the bill is perfect the way it is and Republicans shouldn't get the right to dismantle his plan. Pres. Obama needs to call them on it for what they really are. He needs to embarrassed the Republicans and stop being so diplomatic. You really think that Truman cared what they thought or even FDR? We need see some backbone from the Pres. If they won't pass it make a big deal out of it to the people like Truman and FDR did. They did not sit on the sidelines while they were disrespected. Even Regan did not allow people to disrespect him. He needs to go after the Republicans and highly criticism them for not doing what is best for the people. Pres. Obama needs to get angry and not fake getting angry. He needs to be stand up to them. We have not seen such disrespect of the president since the 1860s and President Lincoln. Like or not he is the president and they are going to have to deal with him or suffer the wrath of the people. Enough is enough with all this baby immature nonsense that the Republican Party is doing. You don't get to cry and take your toys home. They need to grow up and the President needs to start criticizing them for acting like babies.
Turtle- there are lots of Republicans who agree with you and really want Obama to stand firm on policies designed to merit political favor over results. They would love to see Obama go down in a blaze or firefight versus being successfull in moving the country forward by working with them.
Obama has done a good job in standing firm- better than most Presidents. 88 Years of Dem control in NY9 are a testament to his theory of Leadership.
Don't count on it. Please have some respect for the POTUS. No matter what President Obama does, it won't be good enough for the REPUKS. It just grinds their a** that a Black Man is in the White House............SO sad. This country could be fantastic if people would look inside the brain and not the color of their skin. I hate the country, am considering moving to Canada. ONLY in United STates. God Bless you President Obama! Please don't give up.
Lol- Max- you have got to be a right winger posting as a liberal to make liberals look like idiots!!!
Demanding respect for one side without giving same to other side- hilarious way to point out absurdity!!
WHY HASN'T THE FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT TRY THIS
For years now, we have been extending unemployment compensation to the unemployed and al they have to do is to appear and collect their checks.
Why can't tese unemployes individuals be assigned work in the communities for their checks!
WHY BUSINESSES ARE NOT HELPING THE COUNTRY'S INCREASED UNEMPLOYMENT
SITUATION!
As long as businesses knows that those who are employed are afraid of losing their jobs and they are putting out 110% to 120% to save their jobs, management do not need to hire more employees and can keep their cost down.
HOw can either a Republican or Democratic administration solve this problem?
A President is only has good as his caucus. When the public option was apart of the healthcare bill, people like Ben Nelson, Max Baucus, and Joe Liberman voted with the Republicans. President Obama never had a super majority in the Senate or the house, and because of this he only proposed what he thought would pass. If change is really going to happen in this country, then those who obstruct helping the American people need to be voted out. Another option is term limits in Congress.
I can't believe the hate and negativity I read, especially from someone like Greg5. He reminds me of Limbaugh! I think of the military out there and the honor they show, not to mention the sacrifice. They represent what America is all about as they risk their lives to protect us. I think Greg5 should live outside our country for awhile, in a place like Somalia. He might realize what being American means. We are privileged to enjoy free speech and should set an example of honor and freedom by disagreeing when we want but to regard the one who holds the office of our president, with respect. What are you doing, Greg5, to help the poor, hungry, out of work? Do you help anyone lead a better life? How about yourself? I wonder...