Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum got all "metaphysical” when trying to explain why he thinks marriage equality should not exist in this country. Speaking at a grocery store in Iowa, the right-winger cited a napkin as an example to somehow prove his point. He likened marriage to a napkin, though that’s not be confused with a paper towel.
"I can call this napkin a paper towel," the former Pennsylvania senator explained. "But it is a napkin. And why? Because it is what it is. Right? You can call it whatever you want, but it doesn't change the character of what it is."
He continued, "So when people come out and say that marriage is something else — marriage is the marriage of five people, five, 10, 20. Marriage can be between fathers and daughters. Marriage can be between any two people, any four people, any 10 people, it can be any kind of relationship and we can call it marriage. But it doesn't make it marriage. Why? Because there are certain qualities and certain things that attach to the definition of what marriage is."
So much to say about this one... Lawrence will explain a few things to him in tonight's Rewrite.
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This is pure hyperbole . . . but i don't care . . . I am going to say it anyway :
The number of people in the closet on the Right side of the political spectrum in America . . . were it exposed . . . would bring the Republicon and Tea Potty caucuses to their knees . . . and not in a fun way either . . .
Who cares what these ignorant hypocrites have to say about marriage ? They use God as a weapon and Jesus as a mascot AND DON'T MEAN A WORD THEY SAY !!!
When it comes down to it the only one in the Bible who spoke about the marriage the way we know it now is Paul. But in many scholars circles, Paul is shown to be in direct contradiction with the saying of Jesus Christ. The times in which partners are mentioned the gender has not. Only when arranged marriages has there been gender but it has been polygamous. Under any circumstances are we to believe that polygamy is approved by God. God allows thing just because it is not harmful to none, If three consenting adults decide to marry together for God it did not matter then. Not even if the woman is a teen. Mary is said to be 15 when she was "filled with holly spirit" but now we will not impregnate a teen, so in those matter we do better not to assume what God approves or not. I usually apply the the last 2 verses of Ecclesiastes.
Hide And Seek In Religion
( A Conversation Between Hide and Seek – A True Seeker )
SEEK : I have come here to know the God of my understanding.
HIDE : Here is a book to read about people who lived 2000 years ago
regarding their beliefs and mythology about the God of their understanding.
SEEK : Will this book help me know the God of my understanding ?
HIDE : Come and kneel on this wooden railing with me.
SEEK : Oh, so I will come to know my God by kneeling ?
HIDE : Now stand up and sing a song with me.
SEEK : Will God be singing with us ?
HIDE : Please put some money in this sliver dish.
SEEK : So, it costs money to know my God ?
HIDE : Now . . . go out in the world and obey all of our rules.
SEEK : But wait . . . you still did not show me how to know my God !
HIDE : Oh . . . I didn't tell you ? We simply celebrate and worship
the God of our understanding here.
You have to get to know the God of your understanding
within your own self . . .
and you can do that anywhere you are.
© 2009
In a free society and Democratic Republic, Afrommi, we all get to choose the God of our own understanding . . .
We do not, however, have any right whats so ever to force our Religion or our religious rules and belief systems on any one else.
This is a fundamental principle of the founding of America.
MsT,
i agree with you, it is a fundamental principle of the founding of america, but the republicans don't want it to be that way. they think the masses will be easier to control if we are all on the same page, if we all worship the same god and believe in the same way.
He's such a Santorum Napkin!
LOL ! Good one Jack !
"This is a napkin, and I'm going to clean up this frothy mix with it!"
If opposite sex marriage is so sacred, why haven't the Republicans brought before Congress a law making divorce illegal? They want abortion to be illegal because they say abortion is murder. So wouldn't divorce be murder as well? It stops babies from being born, so like contraception it must be wrong. And if they are unwilling to pass a law allowing same sex marriage, then everyone who gets a tax break for being married should pay back the tax breaks they received for being married when they get divorced. Otherwise, marriage is a ponzi scheme that illegally restrains the government's ability to acquire the revenues they are constituitonally entitled to have.
Excellent points Firstperson !!
Love is love is love is love . . .
and so is marriage commitment between two adults !!
If x = Rick Santorum; and
y = incredibly illogical and purposely misleading religious and political rhetoric;
and if x + y = z; what does z equal?
z = Rick Santorum's incredibly illogical and purposely misleading religious and political rhetoric.
Amen Sister Jones ! Right on Ann !
Did I understood what Santourum is explaining? No, but who cares?, neither do the persons around him who wached what his' talking about, but who's to blame? Are you sure to trust our economy, health and education future, on people like this nuts?
I'll bet I'm not alone : I was laughing so hard I had to listen to it twice... and it was still nonsense. Santorum apparently got an "F" in LOGIC. (no surprise here)
What definition of marriage was Santorum using? He didn't say. I think he needs to consult the dictionary. Like a napkin, it is what it is; but it isn't as exclusionary as he seems to think. Santorum is what it is.
Right wing bigot, Rick Santorum, argued in a rather strange analogy involving napkins and paper towels, that marriage can’t ever be extended to include same sex couples, because the word marriage is currently defined to include only mixed sex couples. He seems to think that the definitions of words were carved in stone like the ten commandments. Lexicographers have to put out new dictionaries every year to keep up with evolving meaning of words. Definitions are not a barrier.
Lawrence makes this point clearly. If I use paper towels for napkins, and Starbucks napkins as paper towels, then the differences are in name only since they are of equal use. The only time a napkin is really a "napkin" is in a restaurant, especially, if the napkin is not made of paper. Otherwise, a napkin is not even equal in value to a paper towel because it is not as widely used. A napkin is a poor substitute for a paper towel. So a napkin is not "what it is" because it is not even as good as a paper towel. Lawrence might run out of paper towels, but he could care less if he runs out of napkins. A napkin is only a "napkin" if you have a use for it. So using a napkin is a last resort, which is why Lawrence is saying: Rick, you are toast as a presidential candidate.
In the Old Testament adultery received the same punishment as homosexuality, stoning. In the New Testament the Apostle Paul called for women to remain silent in church and submissive to their husbands, bearing children was their main job in life.
If Mr. Santorum wants to go back to the ways of the Bible he needs to call for the death penalty on adultery and for female Republican leaders to stay home, be submissive and raise children.
It seems that times have changed, Christians don't need to follow all that's in the Bible only homosexuals do! lol
No need to comment on Mr Rick, but the napkin/paper towel "skit" had me in tears of laughter - hilarious!
It is sort of funny, in a schadenfreude kind of way. But, that means it is also sad. It is so very sad. And, so, ultimately, you've got to feel sorry for the guy.
I feel sorry for all of them. They are stuck in some kind of thick, syrupy morass that they can't see through, can't move through, can't get out of.
Of course, I detest them when they try to get me stuck in that same morass.
"Don't proselytize me, bro' !"
Firstly, I think frothy mix boy discussing napkins is a hoot. What's NOT funny, though, is that he's upping the rhetoric. It wasn't enough for him to equate same sex marriage to a man marrying a dog. Now, it's a man marrying his daughter.
He is a sick @!$%#. Period.
What is Rick doing selling napkins? I though he wanted to become president?
Me thinks Santorum doth protests to much! Didn't someone just say recently beware of those who preach against something to much, because they are living what they are protesting against! Think, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig,Chrisitian Right Leader George Rekers (the guy with the "rent a boy" to carry his suitcases.......
I'm not sure how O'Donnell missed the fact that he was proving Santorum's point with his comments. When O'Donnell used the napkin to clean up the spill he still called it a napkin, it didn't become a paper towel just because it was used to perform a similar task as would be performed with a paper towel. There is no question that marriage and civil unions are similar in that they afford similar rights to a spouse but they are not the same; there are inherent differences in the nature of the two unions and to call them the same thing is just an error in semantics. O'Donnell will need to be careful not to prove the points of the people he disagrees with if he hopes to advance his arguments.