MSNBC's Lawrence gives the original birther the chance to rewrite her conspiracy theories with a simple apology to the President. Watch to see how the interview ended.
We give Taitz chance to apologize
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Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:44 PM EDT
MSNBC's Lawrence gives the original birther the chance to rewrite her conspiracy theories with a simple apology to the President. Watch to see how the interview ended.
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Forget about asking for an apology. Orly Taitz was born in Maldova. She is not a natural born U.S. citizen. Lawrence, you should publicly ask her to release the ENTIRE contents of her U.S. immigration file. (She can obtain it easily by filing a request under the Privacy Act.) I wouldn't be at all surprised if she obtained her legal status in this country by FRAUD.
She is not running for POTUS... your FRAUD Messiah did! We still await document that is not forged. The document released by Obama is filled with errors...
Your ignorance is beyond the pale but not surprising.
Who cares what her papers say? She's a nut, who very much like Trump, as gotten much more media attention than she would have if we lived in a sane society. That being said, Lawrence, what did you honestly think was going to happen tonight? My biggest concern was for your health--I was hoping there were paramedics nearby in case you collapsed. Remember, they're not worth it!
well Msgt.....you have certainly disgraced the USAF today. indulging in language that Ben Tillman, James Vardaman and Anselm McLaurin would have been proud of.
GREAT SHOW Lawrence!!!
I can't believe this woman isn't even a natural born U.S. citizen! She should be thankful and humble that she even gets to live here! This woman should be run out of the country!
I really think in this day and age there should be a law that if you are not a natural born US citizen you do not have the right to vote.
How insulting that someone like this woman thinks she has the authority and worth to judge anyone, especially someone like President Obama. But that's what racists are about--they can have the IQ of a toad and still think that the white color of their skin gives them the authority to pass judgement on someone who is clearly their superior. Trump has shown his true colors as well. I believe "the blacks" as he calls us will banish him from our sight.
The black contestants on Celebrity Apprentice should quit in protest.
You are showing that YOU are the racist, the bigot and the small minded fool. Why is it if you question this president it is always something about his race. I do not care what race he is, which by the way is half white. I care about his socialistic economics, and oligarchic governmental tendencies.
Before you accuse me of being a "conservative", or one of the many derogatory comments you give to non liberals. I'll point out, I'm anti-politician. I think they are republocrats, and all deserve to be voted out of office. What we need for this country is a group of people that will give us a government that is balanced financially, ideologically and more interested in fixing this country more than fixing the world.
Wether she's right or wrong, the commemtator did not let her speak !
He totally disrespected her and I think it's because she's a woman and perhaps Jewish as well. Donald Trump has scapegoated her, and now everyone can jump on the anti semitism bandwagon !
Tiggz... FYI, Lawrence didn't let her use HIS show for her crazy, paranoid ranting. She agreed to go on the show to address her allegations and to publicly APOLOGIZE.
Shame on the crazy lady! Such a waste of time and money and who financially backs her anyway? Has the US been that good to her that she finances these lawsuits herself????
Beyond offensive.
And, I love Lawrence's show... and when he's fired up ((-:
When he first started running promo's for the show his tag line was "You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts". I have seen a parade of people come on the show with their "own facts" and get a pass. This time he called it out and I was very proud of him, If you are coming on the show for one reason and immediately start pushing some new tirade that is off topic, you should be called on it. In this case, the woman was on a bizarre mission and it was time to cut the cr@p! Good on Lawrence! Keep it up now!
Does anylone honestrly believe the name of the doctor that allegedly delivered Obama is named U K Lele? Give me a break! How could you possibly that one?
@SticktotheFacts WOW, you really sticking to the facts on that one.
Watched Taitz get thrown off the show tonight.
Way to go, Lawrence! It was so refreshing to not have to listen to a diatribe, totally off the topic, from some twit! Thank you!
It was refreshing, wasn't it! But they kept her face up too long for me.
Yeah, when you invite a crazy person on the show you get crazy talk. Hilarious that some people are still trying to insist this is newsworthy, ...it isn't. I'd rather hear about the effort to force disclosure of where the corporate money in Washington is coming from and to whom it is going. We have to find some way to shine the light on those trying to buy our government in the dark by virtue of the dreadful Citizens United ruling. There was some news on the web about it today--but not a peep on any of the broadcasts. They all focused on this sideshow. I think that's about as crazy as Orly Taitz!
I was wondering where that crazy lady went. I remember her being funnier than that. It was her only redeeming quality.
The State of Hawaii made an EXCEPTION for President Obama because of all this nonsense. They NEVER release original, long form birth cirtificates and won't do it again. But the loud and squeaky wheel got it's oil. Hopefully, the media will now ignore the minority of undeniable bigots out there and concentrate on our real problems...the outsourcing of our jobs leading to high unemployment even though the republicans promised to create jobs here if we kept the Bush tax cuts for the rich (LIE!), governors who promised small gov't taking over towns and creating bigger gov't (LIE!), calling programs "entitlements" when we paid for them every week of our working lives from our paychecks, giving million dollar subsidies to companies worth Billions who pay no tax rather than putting that money back into the Social Security Fund from which many presidents "borrowed" it, bringing our men and women back home to rebuild America instead of trying to force Democracy on lands we no nothing about, and all the cuts in the Ryan plan (did anyone actually read this?)
Anyway, thanks for trying (for the LAST time) to get Orly Taitz to admitt she lied...loved that fake Kenyan cirtificate from before there WAS a Kenya! But, you can't fix crazy until they admitt they have a problem and go see a doctor...if their insurance company approves it.
Time to Move on Lawrence. Do not give the bigots and haters any more power. If we ignore them (especially the media) we take away their power.
Agreed Haddie! and G-Dog!
Our Supreme Court is in bed with the corporate corruption as well. All those "judges" who voted that Corporations are people and can give unlimitted amounts to whomever they can control...ANONOMOUSLY are radical, partisan, rich, corrupt and anti-American. How awful. Didn't they take some kind of vow or pledge?
Overturn the Citizens United ruling! Overturn your latest ruling that political groups do not have to disclose their donors!
RIGHT WING NUT CODE TRANSLATIONS, CATEGORIES AND EXPLAINATIONS :
PAPERS PLEASE = You Are Not America = Racism, Hate-mongering, Fear-mongering
( If You Are Not White – You Are Not Right – Unless You Volunteer To Be Our Token Colored Person / People )
FIXING MEDICARE AND MEDICAID = Destroying Social Safety Nets = Classism, Racism
( Destroying The Middle And Lower Classes And Giving Their Tax Dollars To Billionaires Is Patriotic. Redistributing Wealth Is Not Socialism When It Is Upward )
JOBS FOR AMERICA = No Minimum Wage, No Benefits = Social Engineering, Classism
( You can get 5 - $3 per hour jobs here in America in order to survive . . . or move over seas where most Middle Class American jobs have gone and make $3 per day. Sharing Profits With Workers - Who Create Profits - Through Benefits Is Socialism. Cheating And Stealing To Make Profits Is Patriotic And Good Business )
PRIVATIZING EDUCATION = Right-Wing Churches Running State = Social Engineering
( Getting Around The Constitution And Forcing Christian Theology And Conservative Theory On All Children By Making Schools Private )
DISMANTALING WELFARE = Poverty Is Your Fault = Classism, Racism, Social Engineering
( It's Okay To Take Tax Dollars You Have Not Earned To The Tune Of Billions Of Dollars – As Long As You Already HAVE A Billion Dollars. If You Are Poor And Take Tax Dollars You Have Not Earned, You Are A Socialistic Parasite )
FISCAL MARITAL LAW = Dismantaling The Results Of Voting = Social Engineering
( Replacing Our Democratic Republic With A Fascistic Church State – If Right-Wing Nuts Cannot Win Fairly Through Clean Elections . . . Just Take Away The Results Of Voting )
FAMILY VALUES = Right-Wing Churches Running State = Social Engineering
( You Can Do Whatever Want In The Closet As Long As You Display Traditional Values In Public. If You Are Not A Religious Fanatic You Are Un-American )
PATRIOTISM = Waving The Flag While Co-Opting The Constitution = Social Engineering
( Liberty For All . . . Who Look And Think Like Radical, Right-Wing, Social Engineers . . . Everyone Else Is Un-American And Out Of Luck )
Mst. Thanks for your glossary. Seriously, it helps me. Also, makes great campaign material.
And speaking of "look - - - like - - - Right wing" are all Repub office holders required to have the same hair cut, suit and tie?
Hahahahaha . . . Why yes . . . I do believe it is called " Fascist Right-Wing Robots R Us " where you can get the look . . . and you can get the whole deal for just a few pieces of your soul, your conscience, your integrity and your dignity . . . here is the price breakdown :
Complete Lipo-Brain Suck / $ = A piece of your conscience
Total Heart Removal / $ = A piece of your soul
Total Body Bleach Dip / $ = A piece of your integrity
Fitting For Blinders / $ = Another piece of your conscience
Fitting For Ear Plugs / $ = Another piece of your soul
Walking In Lock Step Lessons / $ = A piece of your integrity
The Fascist Droid Hair Cut / $ = A piece of your dignity
The Stepford Suit Look / $ Free with all of the above
TOTAL COST TO BECOME A FASCIST, RIGHT-WING ROBOT :
Everything about you that is priceless and makes you the precious individual that you are
( PS ) Not all Republicans are Right Wing Nuts . . . The above only applies to Republicons and Draconians . . . and there are Republicans who fit neither of these distinctions of dishonor.
( PSS ) I hear the nice Republicans have a secret handshake and secret meetings on the first Tuesday of each month . . . so they don't get fitted for cement shoes by the mean Republicans. They are afraid to let the general public know that they are kind, considerate, intelligent, open minded and fair . . . because of the threat of those creepy cement shoes.
Here is a clue for how to spot the nice Republicans in a crowd of Republicons and Draconians . . . but don't tell anyone okay ? . . .
There is a light in their eyes that shines still . . .
MsT, as soon as I see ONE republican act different, I'll take you at your word
I get the doubts you feel for sure . . . and I know you get the sarcastic humor in my response, too, about the secret handshake etc . . . lets see which one of us can be the first one to spot one of them with life in their eyes okay ? LOL
I agree about the ideas for campaign material . . . got lots and lots of them !
MsT I just have to say I enjoyed your glossary. it is a very brilliant and enjoyable piece of satire/sarcasm and sadly much too true.
Wanderlust,
One of the most brilliant political humorists of our day is Stephen Colbert . . . I love the way he plays with words that tell the scary truth about Right Wing Nuts while making it look like he is one of them. . .and some of them even think he is . . . LOL
You know what too ? We actually have to thank the crazies on the right for waking Middle America up to the fact that eternal vigilance is the price of true freedom. I am so, so grateful for the MSNBC blogs where people can speak up loud and proud about Independent, Progressive, Democratic and Liberal views without being shouted down by those who fear intelligent debate.
I have to say, that I stumbled upon this site today rather randomly and for the first time. And Yes, while there are the usual trolls and haters here present, I am gratefully surprised to find people like yourself, who are even tempered, articulate and moderate in their views and expressions. Adults basically! I had genuinely begun to fear that there were none left. Even though I am considered a "liberal" by comparison to the lunatic fringe, I'm not so sure that that is necessarily true. Though it is very difficult to tell, seeing as how there are NO moderate Republican representatives, willing to put the majority above pandering to the insanity.
The nut jobs have always been there. We just didn't give them a venue before.I fear that now we will find it difficult to wrest the podium back from them. Speaking in B-movie one liners, followed by a rapid decent into a personal attack and calling that debate, is something that most people outgrow by what, second, third grade? Yet we have tolerated it for years, since 9/11 and called it policy, why?
I've noticed that no-one talks about the American dream any more. Is it because while we were busy buying plastic sheeting and duct tape for our windows, (remember that?), or more recently, being felt up by the TSA, that it somehow turned into the American Nightmare?
Is it me?
I hope this poem I wrote 2 years ago inspires you and reminds you that there are people who still dream about the best that America, Americans and people around the world can be :
I AM AMERICA . . . I AM THE WORLD
I represent the truth of freedom's purpose
within the colors of our flag unfurled
not bound by Left or Right or Center Leaning
I am America . . . I am the world
*
I am a Christian, Hebrew, Buddhist
I am a Pantheist and Muslim too
the God of every culture's understanding
is wrapped up in the Red, the White and Blue
*
I am a black, red, yellow, brother
I am a tan, light-brown skinned sister too
with all my heart I pledge allegiance
and stand up for the REAL Red, the White and Blue
*
I am a straight, gay, married person
I am a celibate, trans-gender too
I trust that all orientations
are honored by the Red, the White and Blue
*
I am for stewardship of this amazing planet
I am for commerce built upon free markets too
it is absurd to choose one or the other
because I can live Green, Red, White and Blue
*
I am a woman and a cultural leader
I am a liberated, stay-at-home mom too
the choice is mine to have it all if i decide to
here in the land of Red and White and Blue
*
I am a gentle man with a strong backbone
I am both brave and peaceful too
the power to protect and not destroy is
the essence of the Red, the White and Blue
*
I represent the truth of freedom's purpose
within the colors of our flag unfurled
not bound by Left or Right or Center Leaning
I am America . . . I am the world
Author: Theresa Shamanka ( c ) 2008
Nice! Tha tis the America that "used to be" as far as the rest of the world was concerned. After 10 years of cliches and S&*tkicker platitudes and a distinct lack of respect either for each other, or the rest of the planet we have sunk a long way.
Signs by, when Obama was campaigning for POTUS he campaigned ABROAD. Europe and Israel. THe rest of the world held the US in mild distain for generations because life was good here and everybody knew it so that distain was more jealousy that dislike. Now the US is held in distain because we elect somebody who can read a childrens' book upside down and not realize , ask profound questions like ".... is our children being educated..." deny global warming and ignore the UN when a personal agenda of a more pressing nature is the order of the day. I could go on but I doubt you need me to. THose who voted in the last elections since 2000 are responsible for where we are today and those who didn't are equally to blame.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is pissed off at an immigrant to our country calling out and disrespecting our President.
Hey Taitz, it is and always will be PRESIDENT Obama to your ignorant ass!
Show some respect or go back to Russia! On second thought, just GO!
I couldn't agree more, Brian!
Dear Mr. O'Donnell,
I want to thank you for your truth about President Obama's birth cetificate. I still can't believe people can be so easily influenced and fooled by the people on the right. What is wrong with this country.
It was a uncomfortable segment...but the truth is...good for you, Lawrence.
I am so disappointed in this country in the disrespect it has been giving this President, my President, our President...I hated Bushes' policies, his disrespect for our economy, his ignorance that got us into this war, but, that being said, I always respected the office....I am perplexed and deeply disappointed in this Nation whereas we can allow slanderers and crazies to come out of the woodwork and trash the President that we, the people, have elected.
Dear Lawrence, don't hold your breath thinking that the executives of NBC are going to fire Trump, they are enjoying the side show.Anything to get ratings. Iam getting a group together to boycott the trashy show.If the blacks on the show were as smart as I think they are they would do the same..Please leave that psyco woman you had on the show last night on the psychiatric unit where she belongs....Jacqui
You make a good point, truecritic. I agree that the office of president deserves a certain amount of respect, regardless of how you feel about the policies of the current office holder.
Remember when the Dixie Chicks were crucified for saying they weren't proud of coming from Texas where Bush was from? How did we get from that to the point we are with this crazy birther, release your college transcripts BS? This is unacceptable!
Unacceptable, yes...from when word first came out that our President was going to run....the line was crossed with Republicans and the Teapartiers..although to me, they have become the Teapartiers....I see a divide in this country that is truly shocking....What happened to civility in disagreeing and coming to equal acceptance. I don't understand that the majority voted for this President and when he couldn't fix the mess that the Bush Team put us in immediately, we have turned...I am behind this President and feel fortunate that he has decided to run again among all the hatred and bigotry...He is running for us, for this country, for his family. If I had to endure what he and his family had to endure...I would say, "Enough, screw yourselves", and move to Costa Rica.
Way to go Lawrence. One scripture comes to mind, "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God." Romans
Lawrence, this does not make you look good. You come off as bad as O'Reilly when he yells at his guests.
Taitz is a circus freak and you lower yourself by focusing any attention on her.
I want to thank you for calling out NBC entertainment executives about Trump's show. They have culpability in this circus. Just hope you don't get fired.
'Just hope you don't get fired.'
I thought about that when he was calling out NBC - hope they don't do to LO'D what they did to KO. But hey, if they do fire or suspend you, we've got your back!
Please do not forget that Lawrence IS one of them. He feels he is right & on solid ground(so do I). I for one am thankful he is taking this angle, for he is correct. As of today it is news, meaning that NBC Entertainment should & must come forward with real news. Now I think most of us understand why NBC has let this go on so much good ole fashion $$$$, but as of today it is now news as should be treated as such.
Mr. odonnell became unprofessional. He lost it here. He was so angry, I can even see the bulging carotids. Even if this lady is wrong or branded a liar, Mr. Odonnell should have maintained professionalism here. I lost respect for both
I completely disagree. Why aren't more media sources doing the same thing as O'Donnell? The stuff they shove down our throats half the time isn't news, it's entertainment. They make up stories. That is NOT news and I respect someone who stands up for what is right and honorable. Way to go O'Donnell!
"unprofessional"? Mr. O'Donnell's insistence that a simple question be answered was absolutely professional! That should be every journalists job. Ask a question, and get the answer to the actual question, then further civil discussion. How rarely that happens. In that regard this interview was refreshing!
I believe that Mr. O'Donnell showed great courage through out the entire show. He did lose patience with Ms Taitz but he was merely asking for an answer to the question he asked. I feel he was very professional. I also think that all his comments regarding the hate mongering and race baiting of Taitz and Trump was right on the mark!
Mr O'Donnell did the right thing. How much lead way are we going to give to these lunatics? Call them out for what they are and when they won't answer the question kick their freakin ... off the stage.
Yea, it was good to watch her squirm, but I also felt a much earlier pressing of the delete button would have been more in order, Crazy is crazy and it is best to leave it on the fringes. Now, if we could only press the delete button on all this Trump airtime...
The next talking head that gives the trumpet face time needs to have his azz kicked.
How about this: DUMP TRUMP!
What an excellent idea
That is an excellent idea! If Trump's ratings hit the basement, he'd be dropped. Even Glen Beck got the axe from Fox...something I thought would never happen... when his ratings tanked, not to mention he lost all his sponsors.
Speaking of which, who are the sponsors of Trump's show? A few emails sent to them saying we won't buy their products as long as they advertise on that show will probably do more good than anything. Anyone know of this being organized, and where we can go to do our part?
lawrence has to be one of the most condescending hosts on MSNBC. And that says alot with the hosts that are on MSNBC like cenk uygar. How will lawrence fill his hour show in the future if trump decides not to run. Lawrence is not qualified while being on the same cable station as keith olberman(fired), to shine Donald Trumps shoes
lawrence is such a hipocritical a-hole...I guess he forgot how far he and his buds olbermann and mathews had their heads stuck so far up obozo's @$$ during the campaign they couldn't see daylight........he's NOW calling out nbc as being biased for not disclosing whether trump's show is being renewed (duh, winning..like it wouldn't be)...and calling trump a race baitor...(but he didn't call slick will clinton a race baitor when he pulled the card during the campaign for his wife billary)...lawrence...the stench of your unobjective, hipocritical, left wing bias is overwhelming...
fair and balance chris matthews lawrence o donnell and cenk uygar
or should I say Mo, Larry and Curley fair and balanced???
like Chris Matthews saying" that he gets a warm tingly feeling that runs down his leg when Obama talks???"
Chris M & Lawrence O invite guests to squirm while they love to hear the sound of their own voices. If you're going to have guests, at least hear what they have to say without shouting & bullying. Take a breath, guys...leave your arrogance at home and have some civility. Even the guests you actually LIKE, you wont' allow them a word in edgewise. Are you concerned, they'll say something equally or more intelligent than you??? Keith O..where are you???
First of all Lawrence let it go on too long, the crazy lady said she would talk about the birth cert. she refused. There was & is no reason to give her air time. I get a good chuckle out of you right wingers complaining about these tactics WHILE defending them at the same time when bill o the clown does it. Typical teabagger speak "I hate it when a host talks over somebody, but I sure enjoyed hannity sticking it to that dem on his show"
I agree, LD, Me. Ed and Matthews are always cutting people off when they are trying to say something or answer a question. I said this before, they need to look into a mirror, and they will see who the racists really are. LD should be fired for the way he ramps and raves about things he doesn't agree with. LD calls this women crazy, then why have her on the show in the first place. The way he carried on, he's crazy also. Hopefully LD will soon join Olbermann, maybe he can get a job working for Al Gore, remember him.
adam, so if you are asking someone a question, and you get a response that is not even remotely related to it, along with the time limits that restrict what can be said on the air, you think it is rude to interrupt and restate the question.
He actually started off restrained, so either ms taitz had a language comprehension difficulty, or she was expecting to just rant on like she always does, and he put a stop to it. If she had answered the question, she actually may have been able to say what she was trying to say; though I think that her questions regarding his selective service form are irrelevant. I honestly wonder WHY anyone even brings her on the air anymore, or even gives Donald Trump the light of day, or even reports on the birther issue (on both sides).
This issue is stupid, I believe that the clause in the constitution itself is stupid (I find it sadly ironic that a country that was founded by immigrants, built by immigrants, has in its highest law of the land a clause that prevents an immigrant from even being eligible for the highest office of the land. Restricting dual citizens, non citizens, or people that have not spent a significant period of time in the US is reasonable. Preventing someone who through no choice of their own; that of the location of their birth; from being eligible for the job just goes to show how the US truly feels about immigrants. The clause was put in to prevent foreign monarchs etc... from becoming president, well guess what, the world has changed. From a world where just about every country was run by a monarch, there are only a handful left, and they are ceremonial rather than rulers. Time to amend the constitution to remove this anachronism)
What did you expect from this woman? Did you really think she was going to answer your question Lawrence?
I have tried to watch your show Lawrence, and I simply can't do it anymore! you were extremely verbally abusive to this woman. I don't care who you are interviewing, you lose your cool, I'm done! You, Lawrence are rude and disrespectful to anyone who disagrees with your viewpoints!
You sounded like you were having an argrument with your wife! Very Unprofessional...
Msnbc, has lost my viewership! Too much of this goes on, the screaming, yelling, and spitting (Chris Matthews)........all because people don't agree with you??? You can't demand that people look at things the way you do! Maybe she is a nut, but calling people crazy etc, is pathetic...and also, why would you put a "crazy person" on the air at all?? Is it, that you "value" the opinion of a crazy person?? You came off looking like a fool......she was laughing!
Are you like this with your friends and family? If someone like you EVER came up into my space yelling like that I'd call 911! Who do you think you are??
Good call on the crazy lady. Mr Frank hit the nail on the head lets stop covering these nut cases and see how fast they dry up and blow away.
then how would MSNBC hosts like lawrence fill his hour like beating up on beck and trump. lawrence has been going on for 16 minutes about trump is out of control
Talk about MSNBC being fair and balanced!!!
Lawrence just follow keith olberman out the door "YOU ARE FIRED"
Lawrence can fill an hour EASILY, you see he actually knows thing and can talk about them EVEN with those he disagrees with. What you politicalwatcher don't like is exactly that, Lawrence can debate well & present a clear picture of thingsBUT when a nut job like this taitz person gets on there & spews nothing but untrue things, he did the right thing & stopped her.
Mr O'Donnell has many things to talk about on his show besides dim bulbs like Trump. I am surprised that he even gives it the time of day with all of the other far more important issues. My guess is the only reason he even gave it the air time is because he recognizes the responsibility NBC has in propping up the buffoon Trump.
Mr O'Donnell, please keep up the good work with your show.
Politicalwatch:
Nobody said MSNBC was fair and balanced. That's faux noise words...
MNSBC is the place for "real" politics. Watch more MSNBC you may just learn some truths. I see you are at the website...you're getting closer...eventually you will be converted from faux noise lies and half-truths.
Kick this POS Russian WH**E out of this country. She insists that he's not a natural born citizen, I insist she's a Russian Whore. Now it's up to her to prove she wasn't. Turn about's fair play. How do ya like it?? Kick her a** back to Russia, see if she can pull this crap in her own country. I'm furious that she's been allowed to continue insulting our President this way.
Cindy
she has been allowed because lawrence put her on his show. Why not blame Lawrence????
lets talk about hate that maybe we can both agree that there is too much of. Here are just a few examples on the Ed Schulz website just from last night. Can't we sometimes agree to disagree without being disagreeable curt???
Cindy
Do we really need to personally attack or bring the conversation to the gutter just to make a point.
Patrick
The Republican Party is more dangerous and detrimental to the American way of life then Al Queda! Way have more to fear from the Republicans then any other entity on Earth. I say the Republicans are guilty of treason against the American people. They are traitors to the USA. I fully support the recalls in Wisconsin. Anyone who is against collective bargaining or Medicare/Medicaid are TRAITORS and should be tried with treason against the people of the United States of America.
Richard Dunkin
I'm tired of you Kock sucking, republican lap dogs coming on forums like this spouting your crap. Get over to Fox News where they support your lies.
Richard Dunkin
Hey Danny dumb-ass. Your momma's a douche. You work for the Kock brothers? You little Koch sucking, republican lap dog.
Ethelouise
Don't argue with them, they get money to start a fight with every reply they get they also get bonus... These guys are paid this is why their arguments don't make any sense and they are ganging up on you. Besides they are all pimply faced maggots living in their mothers basements fighting with people on the internet for pot money
Joyce of California
the republicans are straight up liars, they have always lied there way into office
and will forever do it to stay in office.
Ethelouise
Calvin don't listen to him he is one of those paid trolls who lives in his mothers basement and fights with liberals on the internet for pot money.
Beeba
Oh who do you listen to dubya,Beck,Palin, the drugster, Bauchman,Newt, Fox and freinds, oh I know your a Trump fan ! Let me guess your a birther, or carry a gun on your hip fake cowboy, or follow Beck to DC. Lol you guys are priceless! We like Ed he's on the side of the working man, but that's foreign to the republican'ts.Spare us your crap.
and you brainwashed left wing nuts are slurping on george soros's pole...
Wow, all of the articulate remarks, above...make me wonder how many folks out there can make a statement without dirtying the subject. Can you say "NICE" ????? prob'ly not!!!
It's unbelievable; Trump saying" I just want the guy to show his birth certificate" The guy? He is our President. How disrespectful! Why is the PRESS giving him so much time? Trump looks stupid with his hair, had had 3 wives who did not finish high school, and an EGO that makes one sick watching him. Hope he DOES run for Republicans. Chrys
read "Idiot America". This is all very predictable.
This is a non-issue apparently all these Republicans and Donald Trump do not know the rules
As long as ONE parent is a US Citizen no matter where the child is born- it also is a US citizen- Everyone keeps focusing on the father from Kenya- but gloss over the fact that his mother was a US citizen which makes President Obahma a US citizen automatically- people read it yourselves and why don't these people in government know this?
Adrianne
Actually NEITHER one of Chester A. Arthur's parents were citizens. So even if Anne Dunham wasn't a citizen, Obama would still be eligible based on his birth in Hawaii because of that precedent.
“There is an Islamic proverb that says ‘Anytime I debate an intelligent person, I win. Anytime I debate an ignorant person, he/she wins.’ In this case you won, since you didn't continue to argue and cut her off. Thank you!
How about the media stops interviewing kooky people?
Dear Lawrence:
Great work tonight (although I wouldn't have cried if Orly Taitz had been knocked off the air a minute or two earlier).
You mentioned in your first segment tonight that The Trump had inferred the phrase "Affirmative Action" in regard to Barack Obama's ability to crack the Ivy League. Please bear in mind that, this morning, Pat Buchanan used that exact phrase...
People seem to equate Ivy League with exclusive based on academic qualifications. That isn't the case. Yes the Ivy League schools are generally very good schools, the term Ivy League refers only to an arrangement whereby one Ivy League school would not poach athletic players from another Ivy League school (I believe that this has been struck down under anti trust regulations however).
Remember that it took 3 years and millions of dollars to keep the birth certificate out of the public eye. So you have to ask yourself why now? Having said that, this birth certificate is still subject to extensive examination. There are a lot of people out there who already concluded that it's a fake. Why Obama spent millions of dollars if he had it in the first place? Doesn't make sense. I think this could only do more harm than good.
To be "fair and balanced," (which I don't believe anyone in media is) Lou, we must note that the $2 million spent were for ALL the legal fees regarding the presidency. I'm not a politician or even a PolySci major so I have no idea what they all are for. Also, the for certificate that was on the internet for "3 years", by Hawaii law that is the form that is given to its citizens at birth. The state keep the long form that people wanted to see but the state of Hawaii doesn't give that out.
The people that are convinced that this long form certificate will most likely never be convinced. Even if they do accept it, there are always more things to not believe about Obama.
I actually wished Lawrence had let her talk. I don't take anything she says seriously, but I do enjoy a laugh.
Also, why was this even an issue? Seriously. How is that this President had to submit this when the other 43 gentlemen preceding him did not? If McCain had won would this be an issue? McCain was legitimately born in another country, although it was on a US Military base in Panama.
He should not have had to spend ONE minute of time even thinking about this. Would this have been asked of a white president? NO!
I agree that Orly Taitz was left on just a minute too long. She needs no press time!
Thank you, DBtheOne!!!!! Most people seem to over look John McCain's birth record. I'm surprised, (not really) that the media hasn't brought this up. Sorry to say the issue is black and white...
Although I dont like her I have to give credit to Orly Taitz for her nerve. She didn't miss a beat. Well that didn't work on to the next. Too bad she's focused on something so stupid...
Agreed!
Right to privacy kept his B C in the hospital where it belongs. He hasn't spent one dine keeping anything "secret". I doubt that anybody can prove he did. More Radical Right Wing hate mongering. You lost. Get over it.
Lou-3358832
To answer your question: The State of Hawaii does not ever release the original long form birth cirtificate. They made an exception this one time because of the circus this had become and have stated they will not do it again...AZ also does not release the long form as well, which is probably why the Governor vetoed that ridiculous bill about circumcision papers.
Lou, I am so tired of hearing this "millions of dollars" coverup crap. Where's your proof? Show me proof that President Obama has spend "millions of dollars" to keep this covered up. I keep seeing this repeated (probably from the script you idiots follow) but never have seen any of you offer PROOF!
John McCain's birth records are probably overlooked because a) he is a white man b) the vitriol largely comes from the Republican party (look at how Clinton's National Guard service was an issue but Bush going AWOL from the National Guard wasn't) c) he was a military veteran that not only served in a military conflict, but was also a prisoner of war for years.
As for marginal educational qualifications, Bush was a very marginal student, not just on his entrance qualifications, but also his grades while he was a student. Nobody seemed to care about that.
It should also be noted that McCain was born in 1934 and the base didn't have a hospital until 1941, but it doesn't matter whether he was born on the base or in the town's hospital in Panama. His parents were US citizens, and that made him one.
The same is true of Obama. It doesn't matter where he was born! His mother was a US citizen, and it only takes one parent to be a citizen for the US citizenship to be automatic, as long as the US citizen parent lived in the US at least one year prior to the child's birth. (That changed to five years for those born after 1984, but neither McCain or Obama are affected by this change.)
And, by the way, the Constitution doesn't define 'natural born,' so the assumption that it has to be on US soil seems to be just that, an assumption.
This entire birther issue is now, and always has been, a madeup and artificial issue perpetuated by liars and idiots.
Right on Lawrence - great show tonight!
Lawrence,
The republicans have stated, from the very beginning, that their main goal was to make Mr. Obama a one-term President. As an American it makes me feel frustrated and ashamed. We have so much hate in this country....it's very sad. As for Mr. Trump.....he is an old man, with old ideas. He is a man without shame or integrity.
Thank you for sticking up for our President.
Dear Lawrence,
Ms. Taitz, I understand, has been schooled in law. Has she given any thought to the fact that Obama's legal team maybe building a case for character assassination? With The Donald and others to be named in the suit. I say let them keep talking. They are weaving a rope long enough to hang themselves....all of them.
Dear Lawrence:
It was wonderful tonight to see you kick Orly Taitz off the air. (I admit that I wouldn't have minded if you'd pulled the plug on her a minute earlier, though.)
In your first segment tonight, you stated that The Trump had virtually inferred that Barack Obama had only cracked the Ivy League through Affirmative Action. Please bear in mind that MSNBC's own Pat Buchanan, this morning, used exactly that phrase.....
Lawrence
I think it would be a good idea to reveal the blind process and what it takes in determining President of Law Review at Harvard. A second good idea would be to document the bond issuance history of the Donald and his company and reveal how his bond holders faired.
Just a note about the President's achievements as a student.
I was at Harvard Law a year ahead of him. Graduating Magnu put him in the top 10% academically at a very difficult school. Also, the grades that put him there are absolutely legit: grades at HLS come almost exclusively from final exams, and the final exams are blindly graded. This means that your name does not appear on any final exam; only student IDs are used. His election as President of the Law Review was testimony to his ability to run an organization composed of the largest egos imaginable
great...he could "run an organization" of egos....he OBVIOUSLY has no clue how to run the country...unless the far right is correct about his adoption of sol alynsky's and other radicals' strategy to over burden and bankrupt the country because THAT is surely what is happening...
yo slip & slide, there are people watching you NOW, they are in the walls, on your phone, & even in your computer screen, better watch out they are coming for you. also the water has fluoride in it from the commies & in today's world those commies have planted computer chips in that fluoride, be very very sure you KNOW who you are talking to, for it might be a COMMIE. silly teabaggers
The only thing that will "bankrupt this country" is the continuation of "trickle down economics" and the suicidal Ryan Budget that the final blow to what is "left of the middle class" as we know it Slide 6.
P.S. It's spelled Saul Alinsky and 80% of the economic damage done to the USA can be accredited to the "refusal to tax" at ANY COST policy-I.E.-(starve the beast), concept as clearly outlined by Lawrence's first guest Monday night: Grover Norquist. Now THERE is a RADICAL and one who will make sure that the GOP adheres to his "pledge" even if it means the country goes into economic receivership by causing proven deificit exploding monsters by not only making the Bush tax cuts permanent, but LOWERING them 10% more for the wealthiest in the country, adding more $$$ to the bloated beyond bloated military budget and STARVING the "rest of us" by stripping us of ALL our social and economic safety nets in our old age. All this while REFUSING to raise the debt celing. Hooverian economics all over again. This mess passes and the global economic havoc that will follow will be nothing like you've ever seen before. The last time this happened, Wall St bankers were jumping out windows to their deaths. It was called the Crash of "29" and the Great Depression was ON. THIS is what your precious GOP is doing to us and if I were you, I'd start kissing some Democrat A** right now.
Teresa
Actually Hoover did not have a starve the beast economic philosophy. He was a minimal interventionist however. He didn't deliberately cut taxes in order to force programs to be cut later. He did truly believe in taxing to the extent to what you pay for, he just didn't believe that the government should be there to correct the problems of free enterprise. It was also a different time, and in some ways, the lessons learned then are not applicable today, because the world is so different.
President Hoover may not have been a great president; I think he was just overwhelmed with what was at that time a unique situation with unique causes; but to lump him in with the clearly illogical bunch that are running the show now is unfair to him.
It is interesting to note that by the end of his term as president, Hoover was actually proposing very similar things that Roosevelt was. He changed his philosophy, but it was too little too late for his political life. Also interesting is that Hoover actually didn't lose a lot of respect among his peers, keeping extremely active in government life, pretty much until his death in the 60's.
Thank you Lawrence for saying what I have wanted to say to this foriegn "idiot"
since she started this. SHUT UP and GO HOME!!
And as for Mr. Trump, like you, I have no more respect for him whatsoever !!
Again, thank you.
Claiming that the President isn't an american isn't the type of speech and commentary that we need. This president can be challenged on his issues more than this crap. But to lable the republican party just as "birthers" is dishonest also. Republicans care about the deficit, jobs, and energy prices just like liberals and independents. We need to learn to argue our points rationally and respectfully on both sides. To call someone a racist because they disagree with the president on policy issues is dishonest. But I agree when racism is obvious you should call it out and condemn it. I believe and reason that the president is an american, but I also believe the his agenda is wrong for america. If that makes me a racist than so be it.
This dopesn't make you a racist at all. This makes you a sensible person with a differing opinion.
However, the GOP does seem (whether true or false) to have a subtle racist persona. I'm not saying that Republicans are racist by any means, but that is the appearance that is given by some of its members.
If they argue his POLICY there is not problem. When they attack him personally there is a problem and Trumps statements show he is racist. I've not heard anybody call all repuplicans racists.
Larry
They can't attack his policy however. While a lot of bills were passed in congress (mostly during the lame duck session), his policies are much more of a continuation of previous administrations. So unless Bush was a radical socialist (hmmm medicare Part D, which had bits of socialism, and bits of handout to the pharma companies), then any real focus on his policies are going to result in the reality setting in that Obama is pretty much like all previous presidents of this general era (post WWII).
This in itself is disappointing to me actually. The government does need to be restructured, however assigning all the sacrifices to groups that can't pay for it (poor, elderly etc...) is NOT the way to go.
Where are his college transcripts from occidental, columbia and "harvard"? It is a bit puzzling why this clown spends so much money keeping this info under wraps...he may be smart but we haven't seen his grades or where in his class he graduated (points the demoslobs made about mccain during the campaign but at least he was samrt enough to fly a high tech jet aircraft IN COMBAT!) obozo couldn't clean up a coffee spill at the local community center...go back and be a pro bono attorney....you'll do far less damage to the country.
Find them yourself. Use the Freedom of Information Act. A lot of this information is a matter of public record. For crying out load, use your brains people!!!
Has a President ever been asked about his...GRADES????? Oh, by the way, can you spell "S M A R T " ???
you do KNOW mccain was SHOT DOWN
His college papers are sealed by the college. He's not spent one dime keepig anything "secret". You want to claim he has lets see your PROOF. Just because you say so don't make it so.
actually Magna Cum Laude tells you what his grades were. Oh wait, sorry, can't let the facts get in the way of the truth.
As for McCains plane, the A5 (I believe that is what he flew) was NEVER a high tech plane. It was a lightweight fighter. Now if he flew the F4, that would be a different matter, at the time the F4 WAS leading edge.
Translation: How can this @!$%# get into the best schools when my white trash dumb ass cannot? Isnt THAT what you are really trying to say, racist bastard?
Why hasn't it sunk in yet that people in this country are pretty much done with all this nonsense.
Just because these fringe fanatics continue to make noise is no reason why anyone needs to keep the sound up. For the past 3 years we have been on a daily dose of this garbage. It is time to stop the foolishness and focus on the real issues that will bring this country back from the brink of disaster. I am sure that we are more than capable of hopping off the crazy train and study the real issues and who is capable of getting us there.
We have all learned a lot over the past 3 years just who has proven to have the average person in mind. It has never been shown that the Republican and Tea Party folk can really relate to anyone below millionaire status. This has been a fact way longer than 3 years. To focus such rabid and disrespectful comments to this President is just a very sad example of how this country is totally out of touch with reality.
Joe McCarthy is not regarded as an honorable man. He was a disgrace to this country and only brought shame. Today, we have a flood of hateful people who are determined to confuse and influence the people of this country. We have many examples, through history, of individuals who can be lead by the nose and can't seem to crawl out of the smoke to be able to determine anything for themselves. It is just sad how low we have evolved.
Maybe tomorrow we will wake up and our sanity will be restored so we can function for another 300 years.
you people are sheeples to the democratic party propaganda machine known as MSNBC. There truly is not a single channel to get straight news without a political slant. Screw the republicans and the democrats. How disgraceful politics have become. to all you sheeples out there, you do realize fox and msnbc are slanted. The difference between a progressive and an independent. the progressive will shout you down or call you a racist if you don't agree with them. The independent wants to hear all sides and make up their own mind. I would not call that reporting tonight. Don't invite a crazy lady on your show, but if you do, act professional. If a fox news guy did what lawrence did you sheeples would be up in arms. the double standard.
The problem with with your post Matt is not that it is slanted or anthing. The only problem is that you don't seem to be placing the true blame where it belongs. To say that people are sheep is an insult. I understand where are you going with this but your method seems too harsh.
The real problem with the media is its contributors. Corporation own the media, as well as most politicians, through their advertisment, etc. Glenn Beck's show (that I don't care for) got cancelled because of lack of advertisement, even though it was Fox's highest rated show. That's nonsense.
I do also believe that Lawrence could've done the interview better. He should'nt have lost his composure like that.
I agree. Very unprofessional and unbecoming
His composure was appropriate to the magnitude of the damage done over the years by the liar he was interviewing. He has and will continue to interview guests that he is diametrically opposed to, and will do so respectfully. This person would not respond to a simple question and I applaud Mr O'Donnell's unwillingness to allow her to change the to a spin more ridiculous than the original.
Thanks rmac and that's what made this the gem it was the fact that he refused to let her change the subject from the BC to some totally unrelated issue and document she brought on the program to rant about instead. LO was genuinely MAD and FED UP which is what this came down to. When he kicked her butt off the show, I was cheering him on: " Go Lawrence!!!"
If he ever quit journalism and decided to go back to DC, what a great Senator he'd make for us progressives with that Ted Kennedy smarts, determination and GUTS!!!! Not to mention he's one a heck of fiery Irish Catholic just like the Kennedys and KNOWS his Good Book well, so well, in fact, he's used it to point out the hypocrisy of the right when they love to drag religion and the "the word" into their arguments back in their face and shut them DOWN.
Most recently and back to back? Beck and Limbaugh in 2 Rewrites and that WW Jesus Take back at Rush was artfully done. Lawrence, has anybody took you up on that challenge yet BTW? Doesn't sound like it-LOL