Yeah yeah, there’s talk of jobs and budget cuts. But, Republicans across the country are making limiting abortion a huge priority.
A South Dakota lawmaker proposed expanding the state's definition of "justifiable homicide" to a family member who kills another person in the "lawful defense" of an unborn child. In other words, they could legalize killing abortion providers.
The National Abortion Federation calls the bill an "invitation to murder abortion providers."
Moveon.org released an ad today in response to the recent attacks. It features Lisa Edelstein from House M.D., walking down a dark corridor and presumably going back to the dark days of women’s rights. It asks, “why is the GOP trying to send women back to the back-alley?" Moveon went all out with the 1950s coat-hanger imagery (yikes!).
Here's the ad. Please tell us what you think in the comment section below.





Yeagh yeagh there's talk about altering context to inappropriate levels in your editorials. Good job yellow press, err I mean Lastword staff.
Great PSA. Women do not need to go back to back alley abortions.
I am a 60 year old mother of three. While I personally have an issue with abortion, I have a greater issue with the republicans/conservatives in this country who seem to believe that they have the right to tell us what choices we have a right to make about our body, who we marry and what we believe. What shocks me most is that so many middle class Americans are buying their lies hook line and sinker. The commentary about President Obama, the death panels, the dealing with illegal immigration - their positions are all appalling. They scream the "deficit" and then demand tax cuts for the rich. Add their stance on abortion to all the other obnoxious positions they are taking and you have a group of people who want nothing more than a group of lemmings who believe as they do and are willing to "sacrifice" their own lives for the maintenance of a life style of their political donors. It is all becoming to much for many of us who are concerned, caring Americans to take.
You've got some party platforms reversed in your statement. I personally think abortion is an individual choice. BUT I do NOT want any of my tax money funding anything to do with abortion. That includes stem cell/other med. research using materials from the abortion industry. I feel the majority of conservatives believe as I do. Do what you want with your body, just don't force me to be complicit in your murder.
Apparently Hambone, as do all conservatives apparently, has the right to personally veto items of the U.S. federal budget. I think two worthless engines for a worthless fighter should be vetoed, but I only get one vote. Hambone, you know what you can do with your self-righteous condemnation?
Who is being self righteous? When you point at someone........
The continued tack to the extreme right and the outrageous behavior on the part of a few very vocal "personalities" in the RepubliTea-Party is what will see us through to a second term for President Obama.
As long as their base is allowed to hold onto ridiculous lies about the Prez & his policies - until it becomes obvious that they were led into the maze of cheap political tricks and they jump ship - opposition to the President will be only smoke and mirrors. And when they find out they were had the Republican party will be doomed. Hello Governor Christie!
Keep it up conservatives cuz I really like Obama!
Thanks to O'Donnell/MSNBC/Moveon.org for publicizing this incredible infringement on a person's right to determine what happens with her body, and to highlight the ramifications of returning to the days of the 'coat hanger.'
My only reservation is the attire on the actress in the vidio.
I think it's supposed to be retro.
Having lived through the 50's and seeing the effect of young women having to resort to back alley abortions, I find it a sad state of affairs when we are heading back to those terrible times.
OK
Does anyone ever think about the baby anymore? What about the babies right to choose? The woman who acted in the commercial was smiling when talking about women's health. We are talking about babies being ripped apart out of their mothers womb, which should be the safest place for a child. Have these people in Move On ever seen a woman suicidal after getting an abortion. Does anyone think that women young and old ruin there own lives and their families lives because of mental illness or depression because of their guilt of having an abortion. Babies have the right to live. Mothers should have the morality to allow the children that they helped create to at least come into the world. Adoption is an option and what it allows is for the woman to look herself in the mirror everyday of her life without guilt or shame. Think about what a woman feels like after taking the life of her own baby. No really ponder that for a moment you who say you are pro-choice. What about the woman's mental health? It seems like noone talks about that.
What about a child's right to not be the product of rape or incest? What about a child's right to basic medical care, food, clothes, shelter? What about a child's right not to be abused - sexually or otherwise, or murdered by their parents siblings or caretakers? What about a child's right to even minimally educated, sane and healthy parents? What? Too much govt interference?
reality check: over 80% of all abortions happen IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER, and most of them in the FIRST MONTH. There is no "baby" then--it's a zygote about as big as your pinky fingernail. Mothers don't abort "babies"--they terminate a developing pregnancy. This mass hysteria from the anti-choice crowd has got to stop. Abortions RARELY happen past the first trimester and even then it's usually because the tests have come back positive for Down's Syndrome or other abnormalities or the life of the mother is in threat.
When is it life? Well, that's debatable. How about the father's rights? If you are gonna insist that your choice involves My tax dollars, I think the father should have a say in the whole issue.
The potential father can have a say by either using birth control him self or by only having sex with a woman who wants a child....
Double standard.
No, not double standards. In this country if the man steps forward 90% of the women who even consider abortion would not have one. If the state wants to open "homes" for pregnant women and then help those women get on their feet and help look after the child, then they too can have something to say. But they don't, not the men and not the state. It's all about who has the final word, not the woman's state of mind, or state of body. No one cares either way once that child is born what kind of life it will have. No one cares either way once that child is born what kind of life the woman will have. It comes down to who has control over the woman in the first place. South Dakota has lowered it's abortion rate. Wonderful. What's the average poverty rate in THAT state for children?
Questions and Answers: South Dakota Childhood Poverty
* How many children are there in South Dakota living in poverty?
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, Small Area Estimates Branch, in 2004, there were 33,239 (17.9%) children under age of 18 in South Dakota living in poverty. (3)
* Are young children more likely to be poor?
Both nationally, and in South Dakota, young children from birth through age five are more likely to be poor. In 2004, 22.2% (11,401) of South Dakota children under age 5 lived in poverty compared to 20.5% nationally. Research shows that increased exposure to poverty affects children's emotional and intellectual development. (4)
* What is extreme poverty and how many South Dakota children are considered extremely poor?
Families with income below 50% of the federal poverty threshold are considered to be living in extreme poverty. Based on 2004 data, 7% of children in South Dakota lived in extreme poverty and 8% of children nationwide lived in extreme poverty. (5
Yea the repubs are dead wrong for wanting to keep that poverty thing going...
So it's ok to wipe out the poor through legalized murder? How are you even linking stats about living children to abortion?
PS. Yet another double standard. Let's see some stats on "men do not come forward". Where do you think a large percentage of Govt. money for child welfare comes from?
Father's rights? As in rapist's rights? Grandfather/father's rights, brother's rights?
Since when does commiting a crime provide you with rights that supercede the victims?
I'm not talking about the incredibly small percentage of abortions due to rape.
Okay, then try this. If a man, or a boy, doesn't want to use contraception, and is unwilling to put himself on the hook for the next 18 yrs of his life...then no, he doesn't get a say. A woman doesn't have a choice in the matter. And if you say adoption should be the alternative...then you are ignoring the anguish that comes with that option. Turning a child over to the state is a piss poor choice as well. You are guaranteeing that the child will be abused in some form or fashion.
Weren't you bitching about how absent or uninvolved parents are the reason that so many people get caught up in gangs? Just how do you think that happens?
Double standard. Why can't the woman use protection? And where do you get the idea a woman has no choice in having sex? Just like with the last thread you and I debated, you are letting your racist, mysoginistic, belief system show. Again, don't project your shallow self absorbed view of the world on me or any other person on this board.
Oh. Poor baby, you are being victimized all over again aren't you?
If a man doesn't want to be on the hook for 18 years, if he doesn't want the responsiblities of being a parent then he has no business being caught without condoms.
If men WERE willing to take responsibility for their actions, and the life they helped create - there would be far less need for abortion.
There is no need.
If you aren't prepared to take responsibility for having a dog, then you don't need one...have no business having one. How much moreso with a child. Unless a man is prepared to step up and and dedicate his life to the children he fathers, then he abdicates any say in what happens. He would be just another absent father that you claim leads to more gang-involvement.
who are you arguing with?
Abortion and pregnancy BOTH have medical consequences - as such, it is the woman's right to choose. It's called medical autonomy.
As far as child support and custody issues - yes, there are problems there. However, the way to fix those problems is NOT to take away an individual's right to medical autonomy.
It's ironic that the GOP/TP holler about LIMITED GOVERNMENT! Well, this action will not be LIMITED GOVERNMENT! It will be GOVERNMENT intrusion on women rights and It will be the government legalizing MURDER!
Can one imagine if the GOP/TP has free reign = majority in the House, majority in the Senate and the Executive Office? Hey, they couldn't be stopped! Forget about our democratic government! The handwriting is on the wall - look at what the GOP/TP governors are doing in the states (60% of our states have GOP/TP governors). Don't forget that the Judicial Branch is controlled by GOP/TP Justices (5/4). The Chamber of Commerce and they are connected at the hip. And, they have very vocal propaganda media at their beck and call on a daily basis - print, radio and television.
It took Egypt 30 years to out from under a dictatorial state - imagine how long it will take us!
Let me get this straight, the GOP is against big govt interfering in people’s lives.........but they want the govt to monitor every womb.
no
Hambone.... no? I think you meant yes, because that's exactly what they are doing.
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The Righties ought to stay out of the womb, as they had to learn the hard way, to stay out of couples' beds. I am so bored by their regressionism.
Liberals need to learn the same lesson.
I watched 3 times in order to make sense of the switch of characters, and I think I got it; how many people know enough about the history of this particular issue to be able to do that? It's a bit obscure. That's a comment on the effectiveness of the ad for the uninitiated or poorly educated; however, I agree with the content. Making abortion unavailable will only hurt the average woman, who can't afford a doctor who might perform this service as discreetly as the amount of money the woman pays. Sad comment on an overpopulated world.
Found it ironic that Ms. Edelstein referring to herself used a phrase along the lines of "having been born..." to then proceed to defend her right to chose to kill her own child. That's the whole issue, please allow that human person to be born just as you were, Lisa.
I personally think abortion is an individual choice. BUT I do NOT want any of my tax money funding anything to do with abortion. That includes stem cell/other med. research using materials from the abortion industry. I feel the majority of conservatives believe as I do. Do what you want with your body, just don't force me to be complicit in your murder.
Republicans, the party of personal Responsibility are the ones trying to take personal responsibility and choice OUT of a woman's hand. Damn Hypocrites.
To those all fired against Abortion I have a few words of advice: Don't Have One.
Otherwise the decision is between a woman her doctor and her relationship with Deity.
Amen!!
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Maybe they are trying to help women get in touch enough with their bodies to know when they are ovulating which is not impossible.
Funny how you avoid my statement to get your broad spectrum generalization in. Most conservatives don't give a damn what you do with your own body. They just don't want their tax money paying for it.
The idiocy of the country as a whole is now so entrenched that people who want no government control also want draconian government control. The idea of government not being a religious entity is upheld and trashed by the same people. It is a result of the concerted effort of a few ultra wealthy and powerful who wish for anarchy at the citizen level while they complete the takeover of the actual governing of the country. Fascism is really rampant and mirrors so well the events of the pre-Hitler era. Abortion rights transcends all the lines of Constitutional direction. Religion, Money, Privacy, education, appropriations of money, and the right to life. And it actually destroys any sense of Religious reality, especially the "Christian Ethic : And now abideth faith, hope and charity, these three, but the greatest of these is charity. and And the King [Jesus] shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done unto one of the least of these My brethren, ye have done unto Me. The young rape victim, the incest victim - are these not also "the least of these My brethren"?
There is no solution to this mess unfortunately. I think if Jesus arrived in the flesh, he would end up on a Terror watch list, and if he were to knock down a church or a temple and yell at a few televangelists he would get locked away in GITMO.
The pill and use of condoms are forms of birth control. Abortion is not a form of birth control, it's murder. When there's a heart beating in your womb, it's no longer just "your body" you're sharing it with another human being.
Stop with the "it's a woman's choice" crap! Abortion is the murder of another human being. The only "choice" here is that you can choose to be a responsible adult and use a condom or the pill.
Birth control? After eight years of "abstinence only education," what the hell is that?
Dude, another Fallacy based supposition? Get real, the majority of schools teach Pill/condom, with abstinance because we forced them to include it as an option. Pull your head out of you love receptor.
every day i live it seems the news gives me another headache. I cant even believe that people would think that passing this kind of law is justifiable. The unfortunate thing is nothing surprises me anymore.
cantstandit.. if a fetus cannot survive outside a woman's body it is not a life, it is merely a parasite taking its sustenance from its host, which is not the same as being able to survive outside the host. When a fetus can survive without its host it is a life, but not before.
whoa, i hope you never have kids.......
hambone, how does that relate with my posting?
Spoken like a true, brainwashed, "anything goes" liberal. What an arrogant way to rationalize away murder.
canstandit spoken like a person who has no raionalizion or a true open minded person person... i.e. the mind has winded awandered away,"...
The terminology you chose to use in your original would lead a person to believe that you lack in the necessary emotive qualities to support parenting. That's all.
Well judging by your posting you lack the ability to think straight. Thats all.
fail......
Freedom... Spoken like a true, brainwashed, "anything goes" liberal.
Chew on this cant. It doesn't matter how many abortion providers are threatened and killed, the demand for abortion remains. That means that if safe and legal abortions are outlawed, the market is thrown wide open for butchers like Gosnell. Besides, aren't conservatives all about deregulation? You pick the evil, the women have to.
The problem is abortion is a politically correct term for MURDER
No murder involves a breathing human outside a mothers body, abortion is a tissue removed from the body, but of course some do not undersand that face of human biology.
It is a life that you are ending
What never breathed was never alive. A fetus is a potential life. But until it becomes a baby it is an organ.