With less than two weeks until the midterms, one GOP-linked group is urging Hispanic voters not to cast a ballot this election.
"It's about making people accountable for their promises," said President of Latinos for Reform Robert de Posada in an interview with Msnbc's Lawrence O'Donnell. De Posada, a conservative consultant, said Democrats should "pay for their mistakes."
"Right now we're trying to make sure that people start respecting the Latino voters and people stop taking us for granted and telling us we have no option but to vote for the people who are promising everything every years and then ignoring us," he said. "[Sen. John McCain] started to act irresponsibly like most of the Republican Party" in regards to immigration reform. "At the same time we cannot just focus on the irresponsibility of the Republicans when the Democrats have had full control of Congress."
De Posada denies he is part of some Republican scam to suppress the Latino voters. He sent us his official resume for the record.
Talking Points Memo reports, "In 1994, according to de Posada, he helped create the Hispanic Business Roundtable, which later became the Latino Coalition, where he was president until 2007. He served as co-director with Dick Armey on Americans for Border and Economic Security, on George W. Bush's Social Security Commission, and as director of Hispanic affairs at the Republican National Committee until becoming disgruntled with the GOP and settling into conservative advocacy. He founded Latinos for Reform during the 2008 campaign."
And according to NPR, de Posada "has served in the leadership of the Hispanic Business Roundtable and The Latino Coalition, and was formerly director of Hispanic affairs for the Republican National Committee. In 2001, President Bush appointed de Posada to a commission to advance the administration's plan for privatizing Social Security."
The English-version of the controversial ad says, "Don't vote this November. This is the only way to send them a clear message. You can no longer take us for granted." There is a difference between the English and Spanish ads. The English version singles out Democrats while the Spanish version says all politicians have betrayed Hispanic voters.
Nevada Senator Harry Reid called the "Note Vote" ads "unpatriotic," saying that the stakes are too high in this election for anyone to sit out.
Univision released a statement today, saying the network will not be running any spots from Latinos for Reform related to voting.
Latinos make up roughly one-fourth of Nevada's population, which is enough to determine the outcome on November 2.
ENGLISH VERSION OF "NO VOTE" AD
SPANISH VERSION OF "NO VOTE AD:
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You should have been a lot harder on this shill for the Republicans. I can even understand a Latino organization which supports Republicans, but to tell people not to vote? Shameful.
This guy said it was not directed at Democrats. That the Spanish version was not directed at Democrats. That is a bald faced lie. Listen to the translation. These bums will stop at nothing Lying means nothing to them.
Well, well, well, Deposada's trying to help the GOP win ugly -- AGAIN!:
Here's a tidbit Deposada, there is no immigration reform because the GOP would rather block it every step of the way. No need to kick that little gem up in your ad.
More conservative race baiting..like the republican ad for Hispanics not to vote! Bigoted racism...promoted by the MSM ....
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Only an opinion
Are you a latino Republican? Mr Robert de Posada I never expected a Pontious Pilot Latino to ask for a "NO VOTE" from you're Raza You are a traitor to your race and country The Vote is the greatest constitutional right of the people, How much did the Republicans pay you? thirty pieces of silver?
It should be a crime to influence voting or in the alternative interfering with the peoples rights to vote
ashamed
The Republicans have no shame. Never will.
Well, you have to give the Republican Party points for consistency.
So is it any wonder they would stoop to a "don't vote" add campaign. I'm surprised we haven't seen other groups targeted.
Is this patriotism? Is this governance? Is this civic responsibility? Is this leadership?
Latinos for Reform are responsible for this add, yet MSMBC's headline states its the G.O.P.. Nice spin.
Hey Robert. I am half black and half Hispanic (what we were called back in the 70s). I will not vote for another Democrat, until they get back to principles and stop with their progressive/liberal push. All I have seen, in my 65 years of life is the progressives solutions have made my life harder. I am damn human, not a political tool. I can make it in life just as well as any white, black, yellow, or any other color. So stop with the race baiting. Liberal act as if us minorities are subhuman. They act like we cannot make it in life without their help. Personally, I am very offended by this attitude that is portrayed by the liberal left.
There is nothing more insulting than to have DePosada, who has worked for the GOP in the past off and on, come out to suppress the Latino vote in order to have a majority Republican block at the voting booth on election day.
The Republicans can't even have one conversation about 911 terrorists without bringing up Latino immigration within minutes. They have made an art of it. I'm sure Latinos understand this quite clearly and no amount of voter suppression is going to sweep that gaping bigotry under the rug.
Lawrence, you need to ask Mr. Posada if he is going to vote. Better yet, keep the cameras on him as he goes into the voting booth. He is a traitor to the Hispanic community and to all patriotic Americans, especially those who have fought for our right to vote. He is despicable.
Just would like to see this highlighted bc you hit the nail on the head!
DePosada = "traitor to the Hispanic community and to all patriotic Americans"
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Both ads seem to be saying the same thing to me. "Don't vote". Absolutely ridiculous.
There was this one sentence towards the end of the beginning part of the Spanish ad where he says the Dems have held the majority in Congress for two years and they have done nothing about immigration reform, that he says clearly "ambos" or "both" Republicans and Democrats have betrayed us. If you miss that one little word, then you're mainly going to get most of the ad's message, which is that the Dems have done nothing for Latinos immigrants when all along they could have made changes in the last two years.
How is what he said before that, his focusing on that the Dems have not done in the last two years "clear" because he says "clearly both parties have betrayed us"? He should have told the Latino viewers how and what the Republicans have done to create xenophobia. That would have been much more interesting to watch.
Why doesn't De Posada instead put the light on the things Republicans have actually DONE to show Hispanics and Latinos how they feel about immigrants instead of focusing on what COULD Democrats do in the two years they have been the majority in Congress?
Lest we forget not our very own California Republican governor Pete Wilson who was a prominent supporter of Prop. 187. California Proposition 187 was also known as the Save Our State (SOS) initiative. It was a 1994 ballot initiative designed to create a state-run citizenship screening system in order to prohibit illegal immigrants from using health care, public education, and other social services in the U.S. State of California. The proposed law was initially passed by the voters through referendum in November 1994 but later found unconstitutional by a federal court, with appeals against the judgment being halted by Governor Gray Davis in 1999. Even in the days leading up to the election, Wilson upheld that he would require all state and local government employees to report suspected illegal immigrants to the Attorney General's Office if Proposition 187 passed. Attorney General Dan Lungren, also running for re-election, agreed to enforce emergency regulations to implement the law immediately after the election. (Wikipedia)
Thank you Gray Davis. They should make an ad for this...highlighting the various things Republicans have done against Latinos and immigrants in general, not just what has happened or didn't happen in Washington these last two years.
Thank you for putting " Posada" in his where he belongs, In the trash! Posada...You are scum! IDIOTA!
First well done on you grilling Deposada, and my self being Latin he got off lucky because you were a million times more civil than I would have been. When I first heard about this ad I figured it was most likely done some rich white guys in DC or some scared Angel supporters in Nevada, and I was mortified, and angered when I watched your show. I could not believe that this person was Latin. I figure he would be a Latin Uncle Tom or Tio Tomas, and after the weak excuse he gave for putting that piece out there, I could have not been more right. I am Latin like I said before, I was born in the US, but I met my wife overseas and I am having issues bring her over. So even I worry about immigration issues. This man which I use the term loosely, runs this GOP suppression ad and has the gall to say that he was not intending to suppress the vote? He clearly says for Latins not to go vote. He never offers the listeners an real alternative, to a civic duty of every American native born or other wise. He never offers any candidate or party to actually help. Instead he would rather silence Latins and make them invisible. I feel what this man did is crime against a whole people. Especially a people that have worked so hard to be able to get to this country, and work to get the small voice that lets them go do their civic duty and vote. I hope I never meet this Tio Tomas in Miami, I will not be as civil as a tv host.
Deposada is the worst type of "sell out". He does not have enough respect for his own people to know that Latinos will clearly see through this ploy. He is a puppet of a racist Republican Party and candidate (Sharron Angle) who have openly shown their malevolence toward Latino Americans.
Thanks for exposing this farce!
I watched the interview and then came online to see both ads. I am bilingual and they are identical. Mr. De Posada lied and his insistence on focusing the viewer's and Mr. O'Donell's attention on the Spanish version was merely a smoke screen. As a progressive Latino gay Democrat I find these ads highly offensive. Great interview Mr. O'Donell.
As far as I'm concerned, you did a great public service, Mr. O'Donnell, for exposing this guy. Absolutely despicable on so many levels!
Mr. De Posada is only looking out for his own interest. He should be ashamed of himself. Everyone needs to get out and VOTE!!
vote! todos, everyone!
I hope it cost the GOP A lot of money to get him to sell out his own people and I hope he chokes on the wad of cash.
Republicans have done all they can over the past 2 years to make it almost illegal to have a good sun tan and have done more to hurt Latinos and all people of all colors than anyone could of thought.
I am free white and American and I am proud to work side by side with free Brown Americans, free Black Americans, ANY American!!!
Let's see how many seats Republicans can LOSE,,,,,,,,VOTE!!!!!
I wonder if Central America has problems with North Americans immigrating to their country...
No they don't. I live there part of the year. While the governments do have rules and regulations, some stricter than others (Costa Rica, Panama), Central Americans are not Xenophobic at all.
¡CADA UNO necesita salir y votar - cada uno!
There are nasty ads on both sides but the GOP is waaaaaaaaaay out in front when it comes to outright lies.
You want these dirt bags in power??????
All I can say is "OWNED!!! Great Job Lawrence at exposing this sellout for what he truly is. Man, I cheesed all night after that interview. Excellent.
We will show the GOP come Nov that we are not stupid. Anyone who refuses to vote is someone who doesn't care about the fair treatment of everyone as a whole. Don't let these snakes convince us not to vote. It is our voice and our right to be heard.
Again Republicans showing their true colors, hypocrisy at its finest!
They have no shame, No moral compass, no solutions, just no ,no, and more No!
Shameful pure and simple.
P.S. Lawrence great job man love the show
The truly tragic thing is that IT'S WORKING! These dirt bags are going to take over the House unless Democratic candidates can find a way to connect with the average voter between now and November 2.
I don't care what ethnicity you are or which way you lean politically, voting is an honor and a privilege. People still die around the world just trying to do it. It's shameful to encourage people to not vote.
I agree with you a 100% It is funny how many posting go right to the blame game. If it is shown the republicans are behind this they should burn but in his own words.
"De Posada denies he is part of some Republican scam to suppress the Latino voters". He sent us his official resume for the record.
I would like to see some of these posters condemn the people that are responsible for many of our military personnel not being able to vote, but most won't because they don't believe that the military will vote there way.
How interesting Mr. De Posada, of your statements. Not only are you telling the Hispanics not to Vote, you're putting emphasis on the Democratic party when in fact its the Republican who are blocking any progress for Latinos here in America. Shameful sir, how are you looking in the mirror everyday with a straight face acting as if you have your people's best interest at heart!!!!
Does Race trump Nation? Does Race trump being an American first and foremost? I see a lot of "race traitor" type of comments -- isn't that the same type of stuff we used to hear from the KKK, that if you supported someone not white that they were a race traitor? What's the difference between that and the comments here on this thread?
Let's see if I understand you. If someone tells Latinos "don't vote" (because Latinos might vote against Republicans), they are acting in the best interests of the nation; but if someone says that Latinos have the right to vote, they are bigoted because that's exactly what the Ku Klux Klan would say if the Ku Klux Klan was not the Ku Klux Klan???
Funny, you seem to be the only one posting about "race traitors" and the only one equating Latino voting rights with the Ku Klux Klan. What gives? Stop living in fear; no one objects to your being non-Latino.
The Mexicans are much more organized than you think. Last night (10-19, 10pst) on C Span, the head of NATIONAL ACCOC. OF LATINO VOTERS, ARTURO VARGAS, said they have been organizing on all the Spanish Speaking TV channels, very frequently, calling out all candidates for Reform. He said they did not do this in English or on English speaking channels. He said they have been gathering voters and they are coming out in full force. They plan on overtaking the votes this time in all the southern states including GA and they think SC or NC, I can't remember which. They plan on taking WA UT NV TN by next year. I may not be exact on the states for this year but it adds up to 9 states, that they plan on having enough Mexicans positioned to take over the vote. There is also another article on this on another channel. We need to do something to make sure we maintain the votes and stop the spreading of illegals. Obama is of no use, he and Reid won't give power to anyone and are controlling us. Vargas said they are much more sophisticated about their voting movement than we think. Vote down Reid, Murray and any politician pandering for Immigration Reform or the Dream Act.
How interesting De Posada; not only r u telling your people not to vote, you're putting emphasis on the Democratic Party, when in fact its the Republican whos blocking Latinos progress in America. How do are you able to look at yourself in the mirror daily and seriously say you have your people's best interest at heart. Sounds like you have been paid to sell your people out!! What did they give you for selling out???
Did I miss something in this article. Did anywhere in the article it say that the GOP paid or endorsed this guy to encourage Latinos not to vote? If it did I totally missed that part. We here in Nevada have a tough choice in November. We can; (1) vote Reid back in office and watch him ignore Nevada for another 4 years as he has done in the past with the exception of election years. (2) We can take a chance that Sharon Angle will be a change that will actually do something that Reid has not done and that is help Nevada.
Tough choice indeed: Put Reid back in office and sit back and watch as Reid, Pelosi and Obama destroy our country. Or, put Angle in office and hope she actually tries to stop that from happening and helps Nevada at the same time. Angle a "Change" we can hope for or Reid, "more of the same." I already did my early voting, but regardless of this guys message or whose idea it was, I urge all legal voters to get out and vote and do so as informed as possible and not based on what any one person says or what you hear, but rather what is best for your respective state and this country.
Angle is not a single voice, and probably won't have much impact. She'll certainly vote for all the repeals they've promised, but if you think there'll be that much of change, more jobs, a better economy, you're sadly buying the cart before the horse.
Harold,
You may well be right, only time will tell. One thing for sure with Nevada having one of (if not the highest unemployment rates in the nation 14.4%) and one of (if not the highest) foreclosure rates in the nation, it is hard to believe that Angle can do more harm to Nevada than Reid already has done. Another fact is that Reid is one of Obama's puppets and the more puppets Obama loses in Congress the less damage he can do to this country. All you need do is look at the facts. Obama has not been in office 2 years yet and with help the likes of Reid and Pelosi he has taken the national deficit from a little over $10 trillion dollars to nearly $15 trillion dollars and we are still loosing jobs and people are still loosing their homes. So I ask the one simple question. What good is being done by leaving Obama's puppets in office for him to exploit? Why make it easy for him to continue to financially ruin this country? Besides the fact that Harry Reid has cost Nevada Billions of dollars in Federal monies that would have come to this state and thousands of jobs by all but shutting down Yucca Mountain, a place specifically built for storing radioactive waste. He LIED when he said it was not safe to store the waste there. A simple bit of common sense tells you this if you consider that most Nuclear Reactors now store their waste on site and do so safely, yet a underground site specifically designed to do this is not safe?
No, there is a chance Angle will be no better than Reid. It is a fact she does not have his clout. But what good is that currently doing for Nevada? I have lived here for 25 years and my wife was born here and we can tell you that the only time Harry Reid remembers where Nevada (especially rural Nevada) is located is when it is time for re-election. Just one example is our local Senior Citizens Center. For the past 3 years they have been writing letters to Reid asking him for money to replace or at leas repair the building and necessary equipment. Until a couple of months ago they were told by Reid's office there were no funds available. Then when it looks like Reid need Rural Nevada votes he suddenly finds the time to visit and money need to for the Senior Citizens Center. I can only hope that Angle will always remember where all of Nevada is, not just the vote carrying Clark and Washoe counties .
Doesn't Nevada have a governor and legislature? How is Harry Reid responsible for all of the ills that are happening in the economy of that state? If anything Nevada should be thanking Harry Reid for bringing millions of dollars to that state during his tenure in the Senate. If Nevadans are so concerned about jobs and foreclosures what makes them think that Sharon Angle, who is an idiot from the get go, can possibly do any better? The country sees her as a nitwit. Who in Congress would take her seriously? The fact that she is still polling ahead of Harry Reid says a lot about the mindset and intelligence of the Nevada electorate.
When you depend only on gambling and the businesses that come from gambling you are going to be hurting in tough times. Who has the money to gamble in Nevada when they are losing thier jobs and homes. I don't see Republicans having any new ideas> They have no shame, This guy is a republican schill, just like Dick Armey, who spearheaded a lot of the tea parties while he was a lobbyist.
Studies show that gambling increases in tough economic times. People are looking for that big payout to solve all their ills.
Nossir, you can't have "your own truth" on Lawrence O'Donnell's program. Excellent exposure of a worm of a man who would probably sell out his own mother if the price was right.
Well done, except, I wish you had asked him what the repugnants have done, or will do, for the Latino-Hispanic community. Granted, he wasn't answering the questions you asked. Is he in favor of Joe Miller's Berlin wall concept for the US? Does he want to deny babies of immigrants, born in the US, citizenship? Does he agree with Ms. Angle that Latinos and Asians share the same features and are indistinguishable? (Is that intended to be a compliment? To whom?)
I hope the Dems respond with an ad strongly encouraging everyone to VOTE, denouncing the atrocity de Posada and the repugnants have attempted to perpetrate on what they perceive as a vulnerable demographic. They seriously underestimate the strength and numbers of our Latino-Hispanic citizens.